Problems

Here is the problem:

http://old.nabble.com/language.php%3A-trunk-versus-3.0-tt23746165.html

2 conflicting things are desirable in the way translations are managed :

• Making the work of translators as easy and immediately useful to them as possible to obtain the most contributions.
• Minimizing the work of coders performing merges caused by new translations so merges are done frequently and translations not lost.

The policy used to be that translators could commit translations to a stable branch and they would be merged to trunk. Unfortunately this didn't work because nobody performed merged and translations were lost.

The problem is that the strings in language.php do not always stay in the same order so merging can be a nightmare (string by string). As the person doing merges generally knows only a fraction of languages, handling conflicts is a challenge. However, one easy solution to this problem is doing an alphabetical sorting of all lines in language.php, so that they have the same order regardless of versions, with some new lines in between here and there in the trunk version of language.php, and some missing. As far as Xavi knows, simple editors (such as gedit in GNU/Linux-Gnome, and probably many others in other OS's) already handle lines starting with "// text" as if they were starting with "text", and thus, keeping a line in the same place (once alphabetically ordered) regardless of the fact that it's been already translated or not.

Options

Translate to trunk, no automatic backport (The safe way)

Translators decide to backport to branch or not as they wish.

• If no backport, people have to wait next major version before using.

Issues:

• Less translations may be contributed as translators have to backport if they want to use the translations immediately.

Translate to trunk, with automatic backport to stable branches?

• People would not have to wait for a new major version to get new translations that weren't backported

Issues:

• Relies on volunteers to perform backports

Translate to stable branch, with merge up

Issues:

• Relies on volunteers to perform merges

Unversioned translation files

Instead of having one translation per branch, a single out-of-tree translation file would be used. This avoids merge issues.

Roadmap

We should ideally move to unversioned translation files.

One drawback they have is they contain some translations unused in certain versions. However it would be possible to strip unused translations if we can tell which translations a version uses. Current translations have a unused translations section which contains translations that could be used but that get_strings doesn't detect as being used. When all translated strings are properly marked in the code, stripping will become possible safely.

However, we have to keep in mind that mods used the same single and central language.php file for their translations. So that when someone reviews strings to be (potentially) striped out, some solution has to be provided for translations (such as Catalan) which have many strings for some mods translated (nowadays, and potentially in the future also). Potential solutions:

• some way to add extra php files under the lang/xx/ folder , provided by mods, and used if tiki finds them (like with custom.php). One extra file per mod.
• whoever reviews potentially obsolete strings, installs all mods available for that version (some of them work, even if those mods are tagged as if they work only in earlier or unspecified versions of Tiki)
• Mods patch language.php-s
• Have a file defining strings that will not be stripped

Suggestions

(Torsten)


Siteadmins could then backport their individual languages by themselves by just downloading and copying the language.php of one or a few languages into /lang/XYZ .

For certain custom translations this would anyway to be considered by an admin.
(for ex. for one of my sites "shoutbox" is "roadbook", what is very specific and not for the main codebase - I do have several translations like this)