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Puffin browser allows to attend BBB < 1.0 Tiki meetings without flash (smartphones/tablets)

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Hi all (sent in purpose to the devel and users lists):


Short version of the message:
---------------------------------------------
You can use a smartphone or tablet to follow (and even participate up to
some extent) in the monthly "roundtable" meetings (
https://tiki.org/Roundtable+Meetings ) that we hold in a BigBlueButton
audio/videoconfernece instance, with this special browser called "Puffin":

https://www.puffinbrowser.com

"Puffin Browser — Wicked Fast! Puffin Browser now supports the latest
Flash Engine over the cloud for iPad, iPhone and Android devices."


Longer explanation:
-------------------------------
As some of you know, the new version 1.0 of BigBlueButton (BBB, the
software we use for the Tiki Roundtable Meetings - https://tiki.org/TRM
, formerly known as "Webinars") comes with a html5 client, which will
allow some of the features to be accessed from an html5 client, without
the need to have flashplayer installed, and therefore, it will be much
easier to connect and participate with the basic tools (audio, chat, and
slides, at least) from a smartphone, tablet, etc. We are in process to
have our bbb instance updated to 1.0-beta (thanks Nelson and Jonny for
this!)

In the meantime when we have version earlier than 1.0, or if you have
your own BBB instances elsewhere with versions < 1.0, you need to know
that you can still connect and follow audio, at least, and maybe chat,
etc. with a smartphone or table wihtout flash, if you use a browser that
seems to use flash in the cloud (or something like that), but the real
fact, is that it will allow you to connect from a smartphone, to follow
the discussion and get in with your microphone, etc.

Therefore, when someone asks again:

"is there a way to connect to the meeting without installatin flash ?"
https://irc.tiki.org/irclogger_log/tikiwiki?date=2016-04-21,Thu&sel=151#l147

The answer is "YES", regardless of the bbb version installed.

HTH

Xavi


P.S: Sorry I didn't get the chance to write this message here before (I
should have sent it as soon as I learned the workaround)

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That's great to know, Xavi. Due to the time of day (night), I often have
trouble joining in the roundtable, but always listen to the recording
afterwards, and now I can do it while mobile. I've used Puffin in the
past, but didn't know it supported Flash like this. Thanks.

-- Gary

On 4/22/2016 6:59 PM, Xavier de Pedro wrote:
> Hi all (sent in purpose to the devel and users lists):
>
>
> Short version of the message:
> ---------------------------------------------
> You can use a smartphone or tablet to follow (and even participate up to
> some extent) in the monthly "roundtable" meetings (
> https://tiki.org/Roundtable+Meetings ) that we hold in a BigBlueButton
> audio/videoconfernece instance, with this special browser called "Puffin":
>
> https://www.puffinbrowser.com
>
> "Puffin Browser — Wicked Fast! Puffin Browser now supports the latest
> Flash Engine over the cloud for iPad, iPhone and Android devices."
>
>
> Longer explanation:
> -------------------------------
> As some of you know, the new version 1.0 of BigBlueButton (BBB, the
> software we use for the Tiki Roundtable Meetings - https://tiki.org/TRM
> , formerly known as "Webinars") comes with a html5 client, which will
> allow some of the features to be accessed from an html5 client, without
> the need to have flashplayer installed, and therefore, it will be much
> easier to connect and participate with the basic tools (audio, chat, and
> slides, at least) from a smartphone, tablet, etc. We are in process to
> have our bbb instance updated to 1.0-beta (thanks Nelson and Jonny for
> this!)
>
> In the meantime when we have version earlier than 1.0, or if you have
> your own BBB instances elsewhere with versions < 1.0, you need to know
> that you can still connect and follow audio, at least, and maybe chat,
> etc. with a smartphone or table wihtout flash, if you use a browser that
> seems to use flash in the cloud (or something like that), but the real
> fact, is that it will allow you to connect from a smartphone, to follow
> the discussion and get in with your microphone, etc.
>
> Therefore, when someone asks again:
>
> "is there a way to connect to the meeting without installatin flash ?"
> https://irc.tiki.org/irclogger_log/tikiwiki?date=2016-04-21,Thu&sel=151#l147
>
> The answer is "YES", regardless of the bbb version installed.
>
> HTH
>
> Xavi
>
>
> P.S: Sorry I didn't get the chance to write this message here before (I
> should have sent it as soon as I learned the workaround)
>
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posts: 4054

But if anyone's planning to listen (or participate) while being away
from a phone charger: looks like Puffin/Flash is really battery
intensive. Listening to just an hour of the recording has drained my
iPhone 6 battery from 95% to 20%. :-]

-- Gary

On 4/23/2016 3:33 PM, Gary Cunningham-Lee wrote:
> That's great to know, Xavi. Due to the time of day (night), I often have
> trouble joining in the roundtable, but always listen to the recording
> afterwards, and now I can do it while mobile. I've used Puffin in the
> past, but didn't know it supported Flash like this. Thanks.
>
> — Gary
>
> On 4/22/2016 6:59 PM, Xavier de Pedro wrote:
>> Hi all (sent in purpose to the devel and users lists):
>>
>>
>> Short version of the message:
>> ---------------------------------------------
>> You can use a smartphone or tablet to follow (and even participate up to
>> some extent) in the monthly "roundtable" meetings (
>> https://tiki.org/Roundtable+Meetings ) that we hold in a BigBlueButton
>> audio/videoconfernece instance, with this special browser called "Puffin":
>>
>> https://www.puffinbrowser.com
>>
>> "Puffin Browser — Wicked Fast! Puffin Browser now supports the latest
>> Flash Engine over the cloud for iPad, iPhone and Android devices."
>>
>>
>> Longer explanation:
>> -------------------------------
>> As some of you know, the new version 1.0 of BigBlueButton (BBB, the
>> software we use for the Tiki Roundtable Meetings - https://tiki.org/TRM
>> , formerly known as "Webinars") comes with a html5 client, which will
>> allow some of the features to be accessed from an html5 client, without
>> the need to have flashplayer installed, and therefore, it will be much
>> easier to connect and participate with the basic tools (audio, chat, and
>> slides, at least) from a smartphone, tablet, etc. We are in process to
>> have our bbb instance updated to 1.0-beta (thanks Nelson and Jonny for
>> this!)
>>
>> In the meantime when we have version earlier than 1.0, or if you have
>> your own BBB instances elsewhere with versions < 1.0, you need to know
>> that you can still connect and follow audio, at least, and maybe chat,
>> etc. with a smartphone or table wihtout flash, if you use a browser that
>> seems to use flash in the cloud (or something like that), but the real
>> fact, is that it will allow you to connect from a smartphone, to follow
>> the discussion and get in with your microphone, etc.
>>
>> Therefore, when someone asks again:
>>
>> "is there a way to connect to the meeting without installatin flash ?"
>> https://irc.tiki.org/irclogger_log/tikiwiki?date=2016-04-21,Thu&sel=151#l147
>>
>> The answer is "YES", regardless of the bbb version installed.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Xavi
>>
>>
>> P.S: Sorry I didn't get the chance to write this message here before (I
>> should have sent it as soon as I learned the workaround)
>>
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>> your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and
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>>
>
>
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Good point Gary! In my case it was not that much but many factors are involved (3g signal quantity/quality, size/capacity of battery, ...). I'll take a note on my numbers next time I use it.

What I wrote down already is the order of magnitude of bandwith consumed in my real use case: around 70 Mb for 30' approx while in the street/mountain (that looked like in a motorway at that moment when I talked, sorry for that :-). )

Xavi

On 23 abril de 2016 9:26:51 CEST, Gary Cunningham-Lee <gary_c@cunningham-lee.com> wrote:
>But if anyone's planning to listen (or participate) while being away
>from a phone charger: looks like Puffin/Flash is really battery
>intensive. Listening to just an hour of the recording has drained my
>iPhone 6 battery from 95% to 20%. :-]
>
>-- Gary
>
>On 4/23/2016 3:33 PM, Gary Cunningham-Lee wrote:
>> That's great to know, Xavi. Due to the time of day (night), I often
>have
>> trouble joining in the roundtable, but always listen to the recording
>> afterwards, and now I can do it while mobile. I've used Puffin in the
>> past, but didn't know it supported Flash like this. Thanks.
>>
>> — Gary
>>
>> On 4/22/2016 6:59 PM, Xavier de Pedro wrote:
>>> Hi all (sent in purpose to the devel and users lists):
>>>
>>>
>>> Short version of the message:
>>> ---------------------------------------------
>>> You can use a smartphone or tablet to follow (and even participate
>up to
>>> some extent) in the monthly "roundtable" meetings (
>>> https://tiki.org/Roundtable+Meetings ) that we hold in a
>BigBlueButton
>>> audio/videoconfernece instance, with this special browser called
>"Puffin":
>>>
>>> https://www.puffinbrowser.com
>>>
>>> "Puffin Browser — Wicked Fast! Puffin Browser now supports the
>latest
>>> Flash Engine over the cloud for iPad, iPhone and Android devices."
>>>
>>>
>>> Longer explanation:
>>> -------------------------------
>>> As some of you know, the new version 1.0 of BigBlueButton (BBB, the
>>> software we use for the Tiki Roundtable Meetings -
>https://tiki.org/TRM
>>> , formerly known as "Webinars") comes with a html5 client, which
>will
>>> allow some of the features to be accessed from an html5 client,
>without
>>> the need to have flashplayer installed, and therefore, it will be
>much
>>> easier to connect and participate with the basic tools (audio, chat,
>and
>>> slides, at least) from a smartphone, tablet, etc. We are in process
>to
>>> have our bbb instance updated to 1.0-beta (thanks Nelson and Jonny
>for
>>> this!)
>>>
>>> In the meantime when we have version earlier than 1.0, or if you
>have
>>> your own BBB instances elsewhere with versions < 1.0, you need to
>know
>>> that you can still connect and follow audio, at least, and maybe
>chat,
>>> etc. with a smartphone or table wihtout flash, if you use a browser
>that
>>> seems to use flash in the cloud (or something like that), but the
>real
>>> fact, is that it will allow you to connect from a smartphone, to
>follow
>>> the discussion and get in with your microphone, etc.
>>>
>>> Therefore, when someone asks again:
>>>
>>> "is there a way to connect to the meeting without installatin flash
>?"
>>>
>https://irc.tiki.org/irclogger_log/tikiwiki?date=2016-04-21,Thu&sel=151#l147
>>>
>>> The answer is "YES", regardless of the bbb version installed.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>> Xavi
>>>
>>>
>>> P.S: Sorry I didn't get the chance to write this message here before
>(I
>>> should have sent it as soon as I learned the workaround)
>>>
>>>
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>Manager
>>> Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into
>multiple tiers of
>>> your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly
>and
>>> reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial!
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>>> TikiWiki-devel at lists.sourceforge.net
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tikiwiki-devel
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly
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>
>
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