Webinar 2014 05

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Volunteering Facilitator: Xavier de Pedro



Thursday, May 15, 2014 at 19:00:00 UTC time (click for time zone in your city)


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1st hour quick news

  • Tiki 13 release update
  • Mail Queue in 12.x fixed (yay!)
  • Some demos of other new features in Tiki 13: Survey enhancement, Comment mail in, notifications, Stored Searches
  • TikiFestSysadmin 2014-08 status update

Second hour, longer topics

  • Upgrade Wizard
    • Basic design and implementation will be introduced, and brainstorming + discussion can be held on which features are the most suitable to be added in the screens shown to novice tiki admins upgrading their Tiki X to Tiki Y.
  • Tiki 13 longer discussion of topics not covered in the 1st hour if needed

Confirmed people willing to attend

  • xavi
  • luci
  • nelson
  • jonny B
  • Jyhem
  • fmg

add you name here

Chat log

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Xavi (xavi): Polom... Nelson (koth): polom Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Hi guys ! Nelson (koth): hello sylvie: hello guys sylvie: no micro - just spying ;-) Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): No microphone Sylvie ? Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): ok sylvie: I am in a public room - can not really speak - and meeting rooms are busy Xavi (xavi): :-) sylvie: :-) gezza: hiAll Xavi (xavi): hi gezza Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): silence is underrated :) Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): /me applauds Xavi luciash d' being (luci): polom Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Hi Luci Frank Guthausen (fmg): Hello. luciash d' being (luci): tested the release "dry run" today with 12.1.1 but that is not accepted so it will be 12.2 as only accepted format is X.Y Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Joël is in my place and hears us Nelson (koth): ok, xavi was thinking 12.2 is better anyway Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): yay :) Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): If 12.1 is broken, we should do 12.2 luciash d' being (luci): Frank ? Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Yes, I saw the emails :-( Frank Guthausen (fmg): luci? Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): It was just an agreement on the naming of the version luciash d' being (luci): u wrote that on the webinar page Frank Guthausen (fmg): I wrote about TikiFest luciash d' being (luci): ah, sorry, right :) Xavi (xavi): Current topic: "Some demos of other new features in Tiki13" Guest: bsfez: Hi all luciash d' being (luci): it was Nelson Guest: bsfez: tks luciash d' being (luci): hi Bernard Xavi (xavi): hi Bernard Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Hi Bernard Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): /me so happy Tiki is not in java (would not be among us if it was) :) Frank Guthausen (fmg): next? Xavi (xavi): :-) luciash d' being (luci): Java == headache Xavi (xavi): I agree Guest: bsfez: No backup is bad ! Guest: bsfez: NICE ! moving questions was a pain ! luciash d' being (luci): looks much more friendly luciash d' being (luci): great luciash d' being (luci): could be option to save "anonymous" instead of the username ? luciash d' being (luci): or empty string Guest: bsfez: We had already the issue with "Terms and Conditions; Age". Would be nice to have a switch. And if not anonymous just said it. Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): I think one of Xavi's point is to display whether the survey is anonymous to the person filling it luciash d' being (luci): That too, of course. Xavi (xavi): yes, jyhem, that's the point Xavi (xavi): and make the option (which might be missing) to make the survey not record users choices Xavi (xavi): somehow luciash d' being (luci): :D luciash d' being (luci): this is awesome Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Very nice Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Does it only work when you have notifications (which you said would appear in Tiki14) ? luciash d' being (luci): it seems to work in trunk == Tiki 13, no ? luciash d' being (luci): or is it custom Tiki dev version ? luciash d' being (luci): never work as root ;-) Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): poll_surveys_textarea_hidetoolbar is a shared pref - bad! :) luciash d' being (luci): oh, magic ! how did you do that ? ... :) gezza: nice Xavi (xavi): yes, sounds nice Guest: bsfez: Remind me something :) luciash d' being (luci): Did anybody say Google+ ? :) luciash d' being (luci): blogs ? luciash d' being (luci): very nice Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): How many replies can you do ??? Unlimited ? Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): About spammers. Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): brb Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): If they get one correct email for mail-in, they can do whatever they like, correct ? Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Yes, it's hard to find but once you get ONE, you win, correct ? Nelson (koth): I think at the moment it might be, will need to ask LP Guest: bsfez: I'm sorry... I have to go. (23h00) Guest: bsfez: goodbye all luciash d' being (luci): can you lower your mic volume a bit gezza ? Xavi (xavi): g'bye Xavi (xavi): and jyhem, you need to raise the volume of your mic luciash d' being (luci): second hour :) gezza: i've lowered the mic :) Frank Guthausen (fmg): TikiFest! Frank Guthausen (fmg): one more topic 1st hour Xavi (xavi): Wizards -> Upgrade Wizard luciash d' being (luci): Frank: ahh, we missed that one it seems :) Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Like the release pages, only interactive? I love the idea :-) luciash d' being (luci): can u hold on after this wizard topic ? Frank Guthausen (fmg): I guess yes Nelson (koth): sorry Frank Nelson (koth): I had in my head the wiki page from earlier, it is an importnat tpoic the Sysadmin Tikifest Nelson (koth): let xavi finish and we can cover that Xavi (xavi): http://dev.tiki.org/Upgrade+Wizard gezza: isnt gravatar removed now? Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): WordPress bought it i think :( luciash d' being (luci): why is somewhere question icon and somewhere "i" icon ? Nelson (koth): I hadn't noticed it before lol luciash d' being (luci): maybe those "?" have link to doc page and "i" are just quick info without link ? gezza: i is when it is only a popup, questionmark also point to a page on doc.tiki.org luciash d' being (luci): ok gezza: but it should be same Nelson (koth): should be easy to change to the same if it works like that Nelson (koth): change field types is dangerous for people who don't understand Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): change field types is dangerous and advanced Nelson (koth): should we be advertising kaltura less? luciash d' being (luci): but i welcome it is back gezza: maybe only basic prefs should appear here luciash d' being (luci): instead of going to MySQL Adminer Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): there's vimeo tracker fields too (better) Nelson (koth): I think maybe we can all go through and discuss on a wiki page Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): yy Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): http://dev.tiki.org/Upgrade+Wizard Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): I appreciate to know about change field type is back! Changing them in phpmyadmin is a pain Nelson (koth): well, I suppose it is fine that we can have advanced features here as well, there is a big exclamation mark next to the dangerous/complicated ones. Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Does "Tiki Connect" mean anithing to english speakers ? What about "Tiki community feedback" ? Frank Guthausen (fmg): Jean-Marc: why phpmyadmin? There're six commandline consoles given to you ;-) luciash d' being (luci): Can we please for the larger icons use some of the https://themes.tiki.org/Icon+Fonts for example http://www.webhostinghub.com/glyphs/ ??? To make it look more consistent ? For small icons we are already replacing with glyphicons Frank Guthausen (fmg): dump database, edit it with cat, sed, head, tail... and restore the database luciash d' being (luci): All the large ones luciash d' being (luci): yes Xavi (xavi): Life? or Live? luciash d' being (luci): Life luciash d' being (luci): It was to collect stats I thought how many people use Tiki Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Life is like "stored query". It's what WE want to do with it, not what it means to the person who sees the checkbox Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Let them create a show instance :) luciash d' being (luci): Actually button or icon to send a bug report directly from the page where the bug occured would be useful (with screenshot using jCapture perhaps ?) luciash d' being (luci): Like and Dislike ? :) luciash d' being (luci): It does not send any sensitive data so far except the contact info right ? luciash d' being (luci): And where who can review these data ? Xavi (xavi): Admin assistance? Xavi (xavi): instead of Usability Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Well, these people who dowload Tiki and try to use it: users :) luciash d' being (luci): No idea Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): They are also useful for people who upgrade from LTS to LTS. Most of them do not follow our mailing lists Xavi (xavi): "TikiFestSysadmin 2014-08 status update" Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): http://tiki.org/TikiFestDevOps Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): right? Nelson (koth): yes Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): I don't take plane probably Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): I probably live closer than some other german people :-) Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): Torsten was talking about TikiCamp II Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Even one month is good enough for me. Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): I'm still waiting to find out about other summer work travel, so i'm 50/50 (maybe less) Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): I'm close to 100%, whichever precise place. Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Just like TikiFestCEST :) Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Will they kick us out at 18:00 ? luciash d' being (luci): Yes. I will update the wiki page soon about it. Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Apparently, technical issues are easier than administrative issues :-) Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): :) Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Thanks, sounds good so far luciash d' being (luci): When is the T13 branching - me releasing 12.2 then ? sylvie: well done - thank you Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Thanks Xavi luciash d' being (luci): yes, I can Xavi (xavi): thks (it was my first webinar as facilitator) luciash d' being (luci): tomorrow or Monday, does not matter Xavi (xavi): +1 for 12.2. on Monday luciash d' being (luci): ok, lets do it on Monday luciash d' being (luci): good job Xavi :) luciash d' being (luci): I wondered why it is disabled actually :-p luciash d' being (luci): You can put it on doc site Xavi, jonny will do proper fix ;-) Nelson (koth): ok, tks xavi Nelson (koth): tks everyone else too sylvie: :-) sylvie: bye guys Frank Guthausen (fmg): bye all gezza: bye Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): bye

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