Volunteering Facilitator: @Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist


Sunday, December 19, 2021 at 15:00:00 UTC time (click to check time zone in your location)



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First hour, quick news

  1. Tiki last release update status (https://tiki.org/forumthread77849-Release-23-x-and-22-x)
  2. Quick decision about previous attempt to have "Paid Support" in tracker 5
    It was it was introduced too timidly to work and ended in failure that didn't improve anything and added confusion. It should be discarded (or hidden if someone plan to reuse)
    * https://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=7944
    * https://dev.tiki.org/Tiki-board-for-paid-support-request
    I propose:
    * Removing the "Support Requests" section at : https://dev.tiki.org/Developer-Dashboard?page=Developer-Dashboard
    * Removing the "Paid support Request" item in the Whishes and Bugs" menu item
    * Switch to private the wiki page https://dev.tiki.org/Tiki-board-for-paid-support-request
    * At : https://dev.tiki.org/trackerfields5
    ** Deleting the "description text" for the fields: category:id43
    ** Deleting the field: userJoiningTheSupportRequest, id 239
    This will clean it up and later on people can reuse the page https://dev.tiki.org/Tiki-board-for-paid-support-request
    If deeper discussion or someone wish for a project revamp discussion we can plan it during the end of the next hour or come back with a proposition for our Next TRM
  3. Quick discussion about technologies changes and news
    Each topics is huge and may require long discussions, I suggest we just share informations and update each others. We can always plan a longer specific discussions.
    * Smarty 4, https://dev.tiki.org/Smarty-4
    * PHP Foundation, https://blog.jetbrains.com/phpstorm/2021/11/the-php-foundation/
    * Manticore Search (to replace ElasticSearch ?), https://dev.tiki.org/Manticore-Search
  4. Chosen replaced for Select2 (https://select2.org)
    Chosen was deprecated and not updated anymore so it at Benn replaced in Tiki23 with Select2 (https://doc.tiki.org/Tiki23#Select2)
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Second hour, longer topics

  1. Selenium Tests (or alternatives) to set up semiautomatic or automatic tests prior to commits or at commit time. See also Testing. Related to Marc's topic How to Have Fewer Bugs in Tiki (Torsten)
    1. Do we need/want and if yes which tool ... is Selenium the tool we should use or try?
    2. Resources ... where we install Selenium (or alternative), payment of the resource, management of the server
    3. Test development ... Torsten likes to give it a try and learn to write tests ... more people needed for (if possible) connection to Git, respectively to do automatization and to send error messages to developers (ex: new code / fix brakes this test related to that feature, please check or contact member XYZ)
    4. Best practices for developers ...
  2. Translations ... what will be the (near) future procedure and where to put and find a guideline
    1. Maybe we need to decide new best practices or general rules for translations and leave Transifex?
      ideas, objections etc.
      1. Objection: We just got new Slovak language translations via user on Transifex
      2. Suggestion: at some point after setting up Translation guidelines a six month translation run for the major languages. Similar to what we did in 2010 with German and French. Ex: Q3 and Q4 2022.
  3. Feedback and discussion about the Tiki.org top bar menu and the landing pages design/revamp and the UX
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  • Support paid request removed on the 26/12/2021

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