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Hi Bernard,

well, of course, you could have everything (Group,Language,Param,...)
merged into one MEGA-fluffy plugin that would do all the IF/ELSE tasks
to display content, but then you are creating a programming language
syntax than helping users to achieve something easily with simple
syntax... the PluginList is already becoming something like that, overly
complicated to write for normal users. I agree it is powerful but easy
to write? Nope...

I think it is better they are separated... Sometimes you want to enable
one but not the other. Sometimes one needs to be always validated
(plugin approval), sometimes not - e.g. the LANG

But we are slightly off-topic already here from the PluginVersions...

luci

PS: if you want an example of PluginParam with PluginVersion cooperation
we can have a Skype / IRC session or just have a look at the syntax code
of https://doc.tiki.org/Look+and+Feel


On 17.2.2017 7:56, Bernard Sfez wrote:
> Hi Lu,
>
> Answers inline;
>
>
>> On 16 Feb 2017, at 15:09 , luciash <luci@tiki.org
>> <mailto:luci@tiki.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Brendan and all +1-ers :-),
>>
>> couple of questions:
>>
>> 1. With https://doc.tiki.org/PluginVersions?tikiversion=version+2
>> nor https://doc.tiki.org/PluginTabs#contentuser_tabset_01-3 it
>> does not scroll down to the tabs in my Chrome - could that be fixed?
>>
>
> With my chrome : Version 56.0.2924.87 (64-bit) (Google Chrome is up to
> date.)
>
> https://doc.tiki.org/PluginVersions?tikiversion=version+2 does not
> scroll down to the tabs
>
> https://doc.tiki.org/PluginTabs#contentuser_tabset_01-3does scroll
> down to the tabs
>>
>> 2. With Versions plugin you can also use PluginParam syntax like
>> this: \{PARAM(tikiversion=7)\}__This is information for version 7
>> only__\{PARAM\} on the page. You cannot do that with PluginTabs as
>> there is no URL param for that... Also you can more easily link
>> to display the version information using the Foo?tikiversion=2
>> where with PluginTabs you need to copypaste that ugly anchor link
>> with semantically unrelated string "#contentuser_tabset_01-3".
>> Could "tikiversion" or "version" URL param be added to PluginTabs
>> to support that?
>>
> https://doc.tiki.org/PluginParam is spartiate mode?
> If i understand what it does, I wonder how we use that and if it is
> really useful.
> (I guess I miss a use case)
>
> But Hey ! It works :
> http://localhost:8888/16x/tiki-index.php?isbeep=yes&page=HomePage#contentMy_tabs-2
> (PARAM = isbeep)
>>
>> 3. Could the separator ---(foo 1)--- and ---(foo 2)--- etc. be added
>> to PluginTabs? Then I would be fine with deprecating the Versions
>> plugin?
>>
> Could be an alternative as long as it don?t overkill the code.
>
> But I?d like the idea of a transition mechanism. (like I described
> previously)
>>
>> 4. Also with PluginVersions you can completely hide the tabs and
>> display only the version relevant information on the page where
>> with PluginTabs you cannot do that. See
>> https://doc.tiki.org/PluginVersions?tikiversion=version+3#More_Examples
>> - it makes even sense that the anchor link is not added there now
>> when you want to link to #More_Examples anchor... How would you
>> do that with PluginTabs?
>>
> ? Re thinking it, look like there is confusion because of some
> overlaping option with the 2 plugins.
>
> Tab is doing tab and it is doing it fine.
> Version should be doing version (without creating tabs)
>
> It could then be improved first to work with tabs
>
> ???
>
> Thinking about this ?
> Actually we have \{group()}, {lang()\} and version look like one of
> them, many many plugins that do more or less the same: depending on
> the value of a pref display or hide content.
>
> Why not have one plugin to merge them all ?
>
> Kind of :
> *select the pref you want the value to be checked (dropdown: group,
> lang, timezone, free text? it is endless)
> *select value to display the content (a multiselect or input field to
> select per group of values):
> If group is selected show = (Admin, Registered, Customer, Anonymous)
> or If group is selected DON'Tshow = (Admin, Registered, Customer,
> Anonymous)
> If lang is selected show = available language
> etc
>
> I know it sound like more work at first but Isn?t having a single
> plugin instead of (5 or 7) more maintainable ?
> or I?m just overthinking it this friday morning? :-D
>
> Bernard
>
>> Thanks for listening to me,
>>
>> luci
>>
>>
>> On 16.2.2017 10:25, Brendan Ferguson wrote:
>>> luciach: are you talking about linking to the tab, or linking to
>>> items under a tab, both or sometime else? Perhaps it can be
>>> introduced to tabs?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 2:13 PM, Brendan Ferguson
>>> <drsassafras@gmail.com <mailto:drsassafras@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> While it shouldn't be an issue making an upgrade script, but it
>>> may be safer to do it by hand. Im thinking this plugin is also
>>> mostly used on x.tiki.org <http://x.tiki.org/>.
>>>
>>> I would be happy to just it mark it as deprecated, so we know to
>>> develop/use the tabs plugin. A full migration is a different
>>> issue I think.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Torsten <torsten@tiki.org
>>> <mailto:torsten@tiki.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> +1 aswell (just tried)
>>>
>>> objection: how to mass-update on existing sites/wikipages
>>> where the to-be-deprecated plugin is in use?
>>>
>>> ideas?
>>>
>>> update/upgrade script?
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Torsten
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16.02.2017 02:38, Jean-Marc Libs wrote:
>>>> +1 for reasons stated by Bernard
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Bernard Sfez
>>>> <me@bsfez.com <mailto:me@bsfez.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> +1 to deprecate PluginVersions
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Look they have the same goal but tab do it better/smoother.
>>>>
>>>> https://doc.tiki.org/PluginVersions
>>>> <https://doc.tiki.org/PluginVersions> do a refresh of
>>>> the page and move you away from where you were - back
>>>> to the top (and that?s look awkward in 2017)
>>>>
>>>> https://doc.tiki.org/PluginTabs
>>>> <https://doc.tiki.org/PluginTabs> work just fine
>>>>
>>>> ???
>>>>
>>>> IMO link are better handled with PluginTabs
>>>>
>>>> It is easy with PluginTabs (copy the link on the tab)
>>>> and the url will directly get to the content of the tab
>>>> (no need to scroll to find the tab)
>>>> With PluginVersions you will get at the top of the page
>>>> with the tab open. If the tab is not shown right away
>>>> (big page), it doesn?t really make sense for a visitor
>>>> to have a link to a tab open he can?t see.
>>>>
>>>> Bernard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 15 Feb 2017, at 10:18 , luciash <luci@tiki.org
>>>>> <mailto:luci@tiki.org>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> -1 - it is different imho - you can link to it easily
>>>>> while to the TABS you can't - good for the doc site
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 15.2.2017 9:14, Brendan Ferguson wrote:
>>>>>> Can I get a few +1's or -1's for deprecating the
>>>>>> versions plugin?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It does the exact same thing as tabs plugin, but
>>>>>> reloads the page when you click on the tab. I played
>>>>>> around with it and cant see how ANY of its options
>>>>>> make sense to use, aside from the defaults, and they
>>>>>> certainly cant do more than plugin tabs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Im thinking of placing a deprecated tag in the
>>>>>> documentation, pointing people to the tabs plugin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brendan
>>>>>>
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posts: 6473 Israel

Right another discussion ! :-)

Thanks for the use case.

Did you try my solution to have it using the PARAM plugin ?
Work for you ?

What you think about :

>> … Re thinking it, look like there is confusion because of some overlaping option with the 2 plugins.
>>
>> Tab is doing tab and it is doing it fine.
>> Version should be doing version (without creating tabs)
>>
>> It could then be improved first to work with tabs


Bernard

> On 17 Feb 2017, at 11:43 , luciash <luci@tiki.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Bernard,
>
> well, of course, you could have everything (Group,Language,Param,...) merged into one MEGA-fluffy plugin that would do all the IF/ELSE tasks to display content, but then you are creating a programming language syntax than helping users to achieve something easily with simple syntax... the PluginList is already becoming something like that, overly complicated to write for normal users. I agree it is powerful but easy to write? Nope...
>
> I think it is better they are separated... Sometimes you want to enable one but not the other. Sometimes one needs to be always validated (plugin approval), sometimes not - e.g. the LANG
>
> But we are slightly off-topic already here from the PluginVersions...
>
> luci
> PS: if you want an example of PluginParam with PluginVersion cooperation we can have a Skype / IRC session or just have a look at the syntax code of https://doc.tiki.org/Look+and+Feel <https://doc.tiki.org/Look+and+Feel>
>
> On 17.2.2017 7:56, Bernard Sfez wrote:
>> Hi Lu,
>>
>> Answers inline;
>>
>>
>>> On 16 Feb 2017, at 15:09 , luciash <luci@tiki.org <mailto:luci@tiki.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Brendan and all +1-ers :-),
>>>
>>> couple of questions:
>>>
>>> With https://doc.tiki.org/PluginVersions?tikiversion=version+2 <https://doc.tiki.org/PluginVersions?tikiversion=version+2> nor https://doc.tiki.org/PluginTabs#contentuser_tabset_01-3 <https://doc.tiki.org/PluginTabs#contentuser_tabset_01-3> it does not scroll down to the tabs in my Chrome - could that be fixed?
>>
>> With my chrome : Version 56.0.2924.87 (64-bit) (Google Chrome is up to date.)
>>
>> https://doc.tiki.org/PluginVersions?tikiversion=version+2 <https://doc.tiki.org/PluginVersions?tikiversion=version+2> does not scroll down to the tabs
>>
>> https://doc.tiki.org/PluginTabs#contentuser_tabset_01-3 <https://doc.tiki.org/PluginTabs#contentuser_tabset_01-3> does scroll down to the tabs
>>> With Versions plugin you can also use PluginParam syntax like this: \{PARAM(tikiversion=7)}__This is information for version 7 only__{PARAM\} on the page. You cannot do that with PluginTabs as there is no URL param for that... Also you can more easily link to display the version information using the Foo?tikiversion=2 where with PluginTabs you need to copypaste that ugly anchor link with semantically unrelated string "#contentuser_tabset_01-3". Could "tikiversion" or "version" URL param be added to PluginTabs to support that?
>> https://doc.tiki.org/PluginParam <https://doc.tiki.org/PluginParam> is spartiate mode…
>> If i understand what it does, I wonder how we use that and if it is really useful.
>> (I guess I miss a use case)
>>
>> But Hey ! It works : http://localhost:8888/16x/tiki-index.php?isbeep=yes&page=HomePage#contentMy_tabs-2 <http://localhost:8888/16x/tiki-index.php?isbeep=yes&page=HomePage#contentMy_tabs-2>
>> (PARAM = isbeep)
>>> Could the separator ---(foo 1)--- and ---(foo 2)--- etc. be added to PluginTabs? Then I would be fine with deprecating the Versions plugin…
>> Could be an alternative as long as it don't overkill the code.
>>
>> But I'd like the idea of a transition mechanism. (like I described previously)
>>> Also with PluginVersions you can completely hide the tabs and display only the version relevant information on the page where with PluginTabs you cannot do that. See https://doc.tiki.org/PluginVersions?tikiversion=version+3#More_Examples <https://doc.tiki.org/PluginVersions?tikiversion=version+3#More_Examples> - it makes even sense that the anchor link is not added there now when you want to link to #More_Examples anchor... How would you do that with PluginTabs?
>> … Re thinking it, look like there is confusion because of some overlaping option with the 2 plugins.
>>
>> Tab is doing tab and it is doing it fine.
>> Version should be doing version (without creating tabs)
>>
>> It could then be improved first to work with tabs
>>
>> ———
>>
>> Thinking about this …
>> Actually we have \{group()}, {lang()\} and version look like one of them, many many plugins that do more or less the same: depending on the value of a pref display or hide content.
>>
>> Why not have one plugin to merge them all ?
>>
>> Kind of :
>> *select the pref you want the value to be checked (dropdown: group, lang, timezone, free text… it is endless)
>> *select value to display the content (a multiselect or input field to select per group of values):
>> If group is selected show = (Admin, Registered, Customer, Anonymous) or If group is selected DON'Tshow = (Admin, Registered, Customer, Anonymous)
>> If lang is selected show = available language
>> etc
>>
>> I know it sound like more work at first but Isn't having a single plugin instead of (5 or 7) more maintainable ?
>> or I'm just overthinking it this friday morning… :-D
>>
>> Bernard
>>
>>> Thanks for listening to me,
>>>
>>> luci
>>>
>>> On 16.2.2017 10:25, Brendan Ferguson wrote:
>>>> luciach: are you talking about linking to the tab, or linking to items under a tab, both or sometime else? Perhaps it can be introduced to tabs?
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 2:13 PM, Brendan Ferguson <drsassafras@gmail.com <mailto:drsassafras@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> While it shouldn't be an issue making an upgrade script, but it may be safer to do it by hand. Im thinking this plugin is also mostly used on x.tiki.org <http://x.tiki.org/>.
>>>>
>>>> I would be happy to just it mark it as deprecated, so we know to develop/use the tabs plugin. A full migration is a different issue I think.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Torsten <torsten@tiki.org <mailto:torsten@tiki.org>> wrote:
>>>> +1 aswell (just tried)
>>>>
>>>> objection: how to mass-update on existing sites/wikipages where the to-be-deprecated plugin is in use?
>>>>
>>>> ideas?
>>>>
>>>> update/upgrade script?
>>>>
>>>> regards,
>>>> Torsten
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 16.02.2017 02:38, Jean-Marc Libs wrote:
>>>>> +1 for reasons stated by Bernard
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Bernard Sfez <me@bsfez.com <mailto:me@bsfez.com>> wrote:
>>>>> +1 to deprecate PluginVersions
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Look they have the same goal but tab do it better/smoother.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://doc.tiki.org/PluginVersions <https://doc.tiki.org/PluginVersions> do a refresh of the page and move you away from where you were - back to the top (and that's look awkward in 2017)
>>>>>
>>>>> https://doc.tiki.org/PluginTabs <https://doc.tiki.org/PluginTabs> work just fine
>>>>>
>>>>> ———
>>>>>
>>>>> IMO link are better handled with PluginTabs
>>>>>
>>>>> It is easy with PluginTabs (copy the link on the tab) and the url will directly get to the content of the tab (no need to scroll to find the tab)
>>>>> With PluginVersions you will get at the top of the page with the tab open. If the tab is not shown right away (big page), it doesn't really make sense for a visitor to have a link to a tab open he can't see.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bernard
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 15 Feb 2017, at 10:18 , luciash <luci@tiki.org <mailto:luci@tiki.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -1 - it is different imho - you can link to it easily while to the TABS you can't - good for the doc site
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 15.2.2017 9:14, Brendan Ferguson wrote:
>>>>>>> Can I get a few +1's or -1's for deprecating the versions plugin?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It does the exact same thing as tabs plugin, but reloads the page when you click on the tab. I played around with it and cant see how ANY of its options make sense to use, aside from the defaults, and they certainly cant do more than plugin tabs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Im thinking of placing a deprecated tag in the documentation, pointing people to the tabs plugin.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brendan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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