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Automatted / scheduled email via Trackers and Cronjob?

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Hello Torsten,

Wednesday, December 6, 2017, 7:00:25 PM, you wrote:

> For some resaon I have to invite for certain regular meetings. At the time
> when I have to invite - X and Y days prior to the meeting I am usually
> busy with other stuff or out of the house doing stuff at customers
> places or so.

...
> I would like to setup a ore or less easy managable solution with Tiki
> where I can create more than one draft messages, respectively templates
> and send them out auto-scheduled on a regular basis.

> Further more,(less important) I’d like to extend that to use the drafts
> to adopt individually for special information or additional messages.

...

This goes into a similar direction of what we could use at work.
Some guys need some kind of calendar where they can schedule certain
tasks and assign them to people, several of those tasks would be recurring ones.
When a task is due, it should pop up on the screen (ajax poll loop?) The templates
and drafts Torsten mentioned would be very helpful, too.

What we really are in need is a better calendar/todo list feature combo in Tiki.

Both the current calendar and the current todo-list are not good enough
for anything beyond tracking your own handful things to do.

Trackers feel way too complicated for doing this, except if there were templates
for creating those things easily... and even then. Looking at the whole construct
of trackers they don’t look like they will perform well with lots of entries.
--
Best regards,
Oliver


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posts: 7049 Israel

Mmm…

I need to put my hands on things to elaborate, but I would say that actually trackers and related (list, list execute, mathematical fields, date range, etc) + Scheduler + Console and we are not very far from it. (I think notification push - onscreen - is missing)

Is it way too complicate ?
I’m not sure about that but what I’m sure is that beside a simple todo list with date and email alert each one got his case (numbers of alert, priorities, timezone, etc) and I’m not sure it is “profilable”.

B


> On 7 Dec 2017, at 17:14 , Oliver Hertel <rom@readonly.de> wrote:
>
> Hello Torsten,
>
> Wednesday, December 6, 2017, 7:00:25 PM, you wrote:
>
>> For some resaon I have to invite for certain regular meetings. At the time
>> when I have to invite - X and Y days prior to the meeting I am usually
>> busy with other stuff or out of the house doing stuff at customers
>> places or so.
>
> ...
>> I would like to setup a ore or less easy managable solution with Tiki
>> where I can create more than one draft messages, respectively templates
>> and send them out auto-scheduled on a regular basis.
>
>> Further more,(less important) I’d like to extend that to use the drafts
>> to adopt individually for special information or additional messages.
>
> ...
>
> This goes into a similar direction of what we could use at work.
> Some guys need some kind of calendar where they can schedule certain
> tasks and assign them to people, several of those tasks would be recurring ones.
> When a task is due, it should pop up on the screen (ajax poll loop?) The templates
> and drafts Torsten mentioned would be very helpful, too.
>
> What we really are in need is a better calendar/todo list feature combo in Tiki.
>
> Both the current calendar and the current todo-list are not good enough
> for anything beyond tracking your own handful things to do.
>
> Trackers feel way too complicated for doing this, except if there were templates
> for creating those things easily... and even then. Looking at the whole construct
> of trackers they don’t look like they will perform well with lots of entries.
> —
> Best regards,
> Oliver
>
>
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posts: 1389

Hi.

I do not know right now, which features we finally need to use or to
enhance for scheduled emails, email notifications and email reminders

But I have to say, that trackers are NOT complicated, but the opposit
from that.

What IS complicated with Trackers, is to combine trackers, to build
relations, to create advanced LIST plugin magic et cetera.

What is helpful big time here is any existing and future examples and
copy / paste code to start-off from.
Further mor Profiles to setup basic versions of advanced stuff or to
build App alike Tracker/LIST magic will be a bummer. Not a question if
Profiles will be a much more important part in Tiki, but just a question
when. I am lurking towards profiles since long time, with a lot of
ideas. Maybe we should improve the Profiles docu a bit, add more and
better examples to the LIST plugin, but we should not try to avoid the
use of Trackers where they are applicable, only due to an imagination of
being complicated.

When you have good documentations with examples and then the basic code
snippets, you will get to advanced display quite easy.

Two days ago I did setup a form with Tiki Trackers, that allows me to
send commands to Majordomo mailing lists. I have no idea which other App
than Tiki would allow me to create a graphical frontend for majordomo
lists by just configuring a Tracker output (here the TRACKER form)
without coding effort. So for a non-coder on a shared hosting.
Non-complicated compared to the use cases you can build with Trackers.

Best regards,
Torsten


On 08.12.2017 08:25, Bernard Sfez wrote:
> Mmm…
>
> I need to put my hands on things to elaborate, but I would say that actually trackers and related (list, list execute, mathematical fields, date range, etc) + Scheduler + Console and we are not very far from it. (I think notification push - onscreen - is missing)
>
> Is it way too complicate ?
> I’m not sure about that but what I’m sure is that beside a simple todo list with date and email alert each one got his case (numbers of alert, priorities, timezone, etc) and I’m not sure it is “profilable”.
>
> B
>
>
>> On 7 Dec 2017, at 17:14 , Oliver Hertel <rom@readonly.de> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Torsten,
>>
>> Wednesday, December 6, 2017, 7:00:25 PM, you wrote:
>>
>>> For some resaon I have to invite for certain regular meetings. At the time
>>> when I have to invite - X and Y days prior to the meeting I am usually
>>> busy with other stuff or out of the house doing stuff at customers
>>> places or so.
>> ...
>>> I would like to setup a ore or less easy managable solution with Tiki
>>> where I can create more than one draft messages, respectively templates
>>> and send them out auto-scheduled on a regular basis.
>>> Further more,(less important) I’d like to extend that to use the drafts
>>> to adopt individually for special information or additional messages.
>> ...
>>
>> This goes into a similar direction of what we could use at work.
>> Some guys need some kind of calendar where they can schedule certain
>> tasks and assign them to people, several of those tasks would be recurring ones.
>> When a task is due, it should pop up on the screen (ajax poll loop?) The templates
>> and drafts Torsten mentioned would be very helpful, too.
>>
>> What we really are in need is a better calendar/todo list feature combo in Tiki.
>>
>> Both the current calendar and the current todo-list are not good enough
>> for anything beyond tracking your own handful things to do.
>>
>> Trackers feel way too complicated for doing this, except if there were templates
>> for creating those things easily... and even then. Looking at the whole construct
>> of trackers they don’t look like they will perform well with lots of entries.
>> —
>> Best regards,
>> Oliver
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot
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>



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