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disabling mytiki

posts: 15

Senario: I'm attempting to restrict the grand majority of Tikiwiki's features and allowing only the FAQ and Wiki features for my users. After I've given them time to adjust to the new wiki, I'll begin releasing the newer features one by one.

Question: How do I disable mytiki? I've managed to disable the features under mytiki, but the myTiki folder and myTiki home stay on the menu bar no matter what I do! Thoughts?

posts: 113 Ireland

Well, the easiest way is to edit the menu to change the required permissions or Group. Admin -> Menu and edit menu 42. If you want to brute-force it, change the menu item Group to XXX. Now no one will see it except Admin.

Or change the permissions to tiki_p_messages for instance. Do this for both the section (folder) and the option (item) Then only people with that permission will see the folder and item.

Are you sure that your scenario is best for your users? I mean, do you really want to get them used to tw and slowly add features (always having a changing interface) or would it be better to just expose what is ready and then add major functions (say, file galleries or forums) in a second phase. What is it about mytiki that you don't want them to use. I suspect that by disabling initially, you will drive everyone away from this feature when you do enable it.


gary

> Senario: I'm attempting to restrict the grand majority of Tikiwiki's features and allowing only the FAQ and Wiki features for my users. After I've given them time to adjust to the new wiki, I'll begin releasing the newer features one by one.
>
> Question: How do I disable mytiki? I've managed to disable the features under mytiki, but the myTiki folder and myTiki home stay on the menu bar no matter what I do! Thoughts?


posts: 15

I must be missing something basic here... I've removed permissiosn to tiki_p_messages, but the folder is still visible to non-admins... I may have to "brute force" it, though I'm not sure what the appropriate course of action is. What would I need to put in Section, Permissions, groups, and type (along with the drop-down menu selection and position). I tried:

Name: MyTiki
URL: tiki-my-tiki.php
Sections: MyTiki
Permissions: nothing and tiki_p-messages
Group: XXX
Type: section

Is there something simple I'm missing here?


posts: 3665 United States

> Senario: I'm attempting to restrict the grand majority of Tikiwiki's features and allowing only the FAQ and Wiki features for my users. After I've given them time to adjust to the new wiki, I'll begin releasing the newer features one by one.
>
> Question: How do I disable mytiki? I've managed to disable the features under mytiki, but the myTiki folder and myTiki home stay on the menu bar no matter what I do! Thoughts?

Rather than editing the existing menu42, I'd create a new menu & module for your users. (Keep the default menu & module for admins).

Here's what I would do:

  1. Create a new menu that includes only the features you want users to see
  2. Create a NEW MENU module.
  3. Add the new menu to the NEW MENU module.
  4. Edit the existing main menu module — and assign it only to the Admin.
  5. On the General: Admin page, turn off the "Display modules to all groups always." Now only the Admin login will see menu42 — your other users will only see the NEW MENU (and the options that you explicitly add to it).


HTH,

-Rick


posts: 257 United States

I just ran across this last night for one of my clients.

In the main admin meu (the icon view) choose General and abouit halfway down under General Settings uncheck "Display Modules to all groups always". It should disapparate for you. I find I usually also have to refresh the page once or twice to see the change but it should just go away.

Now only groups you have assigned permission to view a menu will see a menu so you'll need to assign anonymous permission now to any menu that you want the entire world to see.


posts: 257 United States

Just ran across this issue myself and you can go into the "General" admin (icons, not text menu) and under "General Settings" uncheck "Display modules to all groups always" and it will go away.

Be sure though that any other modules you want to show up for everybody are assigned the Anonymous permission or they'll go away too! You can also assign modules per group. This is done in the Modules admin menu (the text menu, not the icons)


posts: 257 United States

Try going into the "General" admin icon, and unchecking "Display modules to all users all the time". It should go away.

Modules will now only show up for users as you have assigned permission -so, remember that you'll have to assign permissions per module.


posts: 15
Done! Thank you all for your much-needed help and support. Happy Friday!

posts: 15

Thanks for your help! That fixed the problem in seconds!

One last thing, I'm getting a header that has a link to MyTiki, any idea how to get rid of it? It's a simple bar across the top of the page with the footprint-icon and MyTiki next to it, I'm using neat.css... as I think that has something to do with it.


posts: 15

reposting it so it appears in the right spot in the thread

Thanks for your help! That fixed the problem in seconds!

One last thing, I'm getting a header that has a link to MyTiki, any idea how to get rid of it? It's a simple bar across the top of the page with the footprint-icon and MyTiki next to it, I'm using neat.css... as I think that has something to do with it.

posts: 3665 United States

> reposting it so it appears in the right spot in the thread
>
> Thanks for your help! That fixed the problem in seconds!
>
> One last thing, I'm getting a header that has a link to MyTiki, any idea how to get rid of it? It's a simple bar across the top of the page with the footprint-icon and MyTiki next to it, I'm using neat.css... as I think that has something to do with it.

Sounds like a category listing, breadcrumb or navigation bar from a structure. Or maybe you have the page name and page id displaying? Do you have an public URL or can you attach a picture?

-Rick

posts: 15

> > reposting it so it appears in the right spot in the thread
> >
> > Thanks for your help! That fixed the problem in seconds!
> >
> > One last thing, I'm getting a header that has a link to MyTiki, any idea how to get rid of it? It's a simple bar across the top of the page with the footprint-icon and MyTiki next to it, I'm using neat.css... as I think that has something to do with it.
>
> Sounds like a category listing, breadcrumb or navigation bar from a structure. Or maybe you have the page name and page id displaying? Do you have an public URL or can you attach a picture?
>
> -Rick

Absolutely! I apologize for the blackout, though it had to be done. I "circled" the section in question.
Thanks for the prompt reply!

posts: 3665 United States

> Absolutely! I apologize for the blackout, though it had to be done. I "circled" the section in question.
> Thanks for the prompt reply!


The MyTiki link is hardcoded in the theme you're using (neat). You'll need to edit the tiki.tpl template file to remove the link.

HTH,

-Rick

posts: 15

> > Absolutely! I apologize for the blackout, though it had to be done. I "circled" the section in question.
> > Thanks for the prompt reply!
>
>
> The MyTiki link is hardcoded in the theme you're using (neat). You'll need to edit the tiki.tpl template file to remove the link.
>
> HTH,
>
> -Rick

Pardon my ignorance, but I don't know where to look in tiki.tpl. I'm assuming this is the tiki.tpl in the templates directory (as it was the only one I could find) but I can't find any reference to mytiki in said file. I randomly started deleting sections of the template in the hopes that a save+refresh would get me something, but the page remained the same. Thoughts?

posts: 3665 United States

>
> Pardon my ignorance, but I don't know where to look in tiki.tpl. I'm assuming this is the tiki.tpl in the templates directory (as it was the only one I could find) but I can't find any reference to mytiki in said file. I randomly started deleting sections of the template in the hopes that a save+refresh would get me something, but the page remained the same. Thoughts?

You're using the neat theme — this overrides some of the base templates.

  1. Go to ../templates/styles/neat/
  2. Open the tiki.tpl file (you can use any text editor).
  3. Delete the line:
    {CODE()}

  <img src='styles/neat/user.gif' /><a class="tikitopmenu" href="tiki-my_tiki.php">MyTiki{/tr}</a>

  1. Flush the Tiki cache and your browser cache, then reload the page.


You might want to look at the docs for details on customizing the theme.

HTH,

-Rick

posts: 15

> >
> > Pardon my ignorance, but I don't know where to look in tiki.tpl. I'm assuming this is the tiki.tpl in the templates directory (as it was the only one I could find) but I can't find any reference to mytiki in said file. I randomly started deleting sections of the template in the hopes that a save+refresh would get me something, but the page remained the same. Thoughts?
>
> You're using the neat theme — this overrides some of the base templates.
>
> #Go to ../templates/styles/neat/
> #Open the tiki.tpl file (you can use any text editor).
> #Delete the line:
> +{CODE()}
>   <img src='styles/neat/user.gif' /><a class="tikitopmenu" href="tiki-my_tiki.php">MyTiki{/tr}</a>
> #Flush the Tiki cache and your browser cache, then reload the page.
>
> You might want to look at the docs for details on customizing the theme.
>
> HTH,
>
> -Rick

That did it! I kept on going to styles/neat and not templates/styles/neat! Thank you so much for your help!

posts: 3665 United States

>
> Pardon my ignorance, but I don't know where to look in tiki.tpl. I'm assuming this is the tiki.tpl in the templates directory (as it was the only one I could find) but I can't find any reference to mytiki in said file. I randomly started deleting sections of the template in the hopes that a save+refresh would get me something, but the page remained the same. Thoughts?

Easy:

  1. Go to ../templates/styles/neat/
  2. Open the tiki.tpl file (you can use any text editor).
  3. Delete the line:
    Copy to clipboard
      <img src='styles/neat/user.gif' /><a class="tikitopmenu" href="tiki-my_tiki.php">{tr}MyTiki{/tr}</a>
  4. Flush the Tiki cache and your browser cache, then reload the page.


You might want to look at the docs for details on customizing the theme.

HTH,

-Rick