History: BigBlueButton Dogfood

luci - 04:43:35 PM hola Xavi 😊
Xavi - 04:43:45 PM hi
Xavi - 04:43:50 PM are you presenting something?
Xavi - 04:43:57 PM and I lost your desktop
luci - 04:44:05 PM i just closed it
luci - 04:44:13 PM too slow for my mini laptop
Xavi - 04:44:14 PM moreover, my stream webcam is doing nothing
Xavi - 04:44:34 PM ok
luci - 04:44:39 PM i will give you presentator status
Xavi - 04:44:49 PM got it
luci - 04:45:15 PM now it says Xavi is currently presenting
Xavi - 04:45:19 PM streamcam not working either
luci - 04:46:52 PM i will try my webcam
luci - 04:46:58 PM i am in linux too
Xavi - 04:47:27 PM mmm, I saw an error while uploadig a pdf
Xavi - 04:47:52 PM it was not a ppt / odp presentation, but a brochiure on pdf
Xavi - 04:47:59 PM however, something is shown in the presentation module
Xavi - 04:48:17 PM yes, it works
luci - 04:48:25 PM yes it seems it must be pdf presentation
luci - 04:48:31 PM my webcam works
luci - 04:48:37 PM i just had to allow the flash
Xavi - 04:48:40 PM I cannot see it
luci - 04:49:06 PM maybe there's a bug in shiretoko about that ? i am in opera now, was with arora here yesterday and webcam worked too
luci - 04:49:46 PM you must double click my webcam icon in web participants list maybe
Xavi - 04:49:59 PM yep, you are right 😊
Xavi - 04:50:13 PM I see you now
luci - 04:50:17 PM 😊
Xavi - 04:50:20 PM but it doesn't recognize my camera
luci - 04:50:28 PM try with opera
Xavi - 04:50:29 PM are you talking?
Xavi - 04:50:39 PM mmmm, I don't hve opera installed....
luci - 04:50:44 PM or did you confirmed the flash access dialog ?
Xavi - 04:50:50 PM I'll try with epiphany and chome, first
Xavi - 04:51:07 PM I didn't see the flash access dialogue automaticaly
Xavi - 04:51:17 PM I had to maualy go to flah settings, and gran access
luci - 04:51:26 PM than it is the bug with firefox that it doesn't show it up
Xavi - 04:51:32 PM however, it said that my camera was not recognized by flash
luci - 04:51:40 PM ah
luci - 04:51:45 PM oups
luci - 04:51:55 PM are you in the mac machine or other ?
Xavi - 04:52:02 PM mac machine, using karmic
luci - 04:52:08 PM i see
Xavi - 04:52:11 PM yesterday it worked like acharm with ekiga and skype
luci - 04:52:12 PM presentation works
Xavi - 04:52:22 PM ok, I loggof and login again with other browsers
luci - 04:52:25 PM have you tried with ustream.tv yet ?
luci - 04:52:31 PM it uses the same as this i presume
Xavi - 04:52:31 PM no, not yet
Xavi - 04:52:42 PM see you in a few secs
Pascal St-Jean - 10:54:15 AM Hey everyone
luci - 04:55:00 PM hi pascal
Pascal St-Jean - 10:54:42 AM just thought I'd come see if there was anyone online
Pascal St-Jean - 10:54:57 AM I'll be heading out to TikiFest to great the others after lunch here
Pascal St-Jean - 10:55:05 AM We should be online around 3PM Eastern
Xavi - 04:55:58 PM luci, how do you delete a presenation file?
luci - 04:56:00 PM ok, it means 9PM CET 😊
Pascal St-Jean - 10:55:45 AM hum good question
luci - 04:56:15 PM no idea, Xavi
Pascal St-Jean - 10:55:50 AM you should just be able to close it
luci - 04:56:21 PM i haven't tried it yet
Pascal St-Jean - 10:55:55 AM one second I can ask Fred
Pascal St-Jean - 10:56:33 AM Fred Dixon will join us
Pascal St-Jean - 10:56:40 AM you can ask him a few questions about the system
Pascal St-Jean - 10:56:47 AM he's excited that we are using it for TIkiFest
Xavi - 04:57:34 PM hey, it worked (webcam) with epiphany
Xavi - 04:57:43 PM webcam is on
Pascal St-Jean - 10:57:26 AM Hi Fred
luci - 04:57:59 PM 😀
Fred - 10:57:47 AM Hi guys
Xavi - 04:58:06 PM hi Fred
luci - 04:58:23 PM hey guys, i can see you 😊
Xavi - 04:58:42 PM so can I 😊
Pascal St-Jean - 10:58:16 AM if you guys have speakers on Fred can give a quick presentation on the system
luci - 04:58:47 PM lets try the voice now
Pascal St-Jean - 10:58:22 AM how to give poeple presentor rights
Pascal St-Jean - 10:58:27 AM and how to setup Screen Sharing
Xavi - 04:58:58 PM ok
luci - 04:59:03 PM cool
Pascal St-Jean - 10:58:41 AM I'll let you take it away Fred
Xavi - 04:59:11 PM and how to delete files uploaded to the presentation
Pascal St-Jean - 10:58:54 AM I'll be able to train the others here in Toronto when I see them
Fred - 10:59:12 AM sure thing
Pascal St-Jean - 10:59:00 AM thx
Fred - 10:59:29 AM Do you guys want to join the voice conference?
Pascal St-Jean - 10:59:21 AM sure I'll join
Xavi - 04:59:58 PM ok, how do we dothat?
Pascal St-Jean - 10:59:29 AM if you click on the Headset button
Pascal St-Jean - 10:59:31 AM on top
Fred - 10:59:47 AM right
Pascal St-Jean - 10:59:36 AM beside the webcome
Pascal St-Jean - 10:59:42 AM it will activate VOIP
Xavi - 05:00:26 PM ah, ok
Fred - 11:00:29 AM Xavi ... can you hear me?
Xavi - 05:00:53 PM ah, sure, I can 😊
Xavi - 05:01:00 PM I'll get my headphone
Xavi - 05:01:07 PM i'm on the living room with my wife :-9
Fred - 11:00:54 AM Luci ... can you join the voice conference?
Xavi - 05:01:13 PM and she¡'s sleeping
Fred - 11:02:08 AM I can see the headphones
Xavi - 05:02:37 PM 😊
Xavi - 05:04:48 PM ok, go ahead
Xavi - 05:04:51 PM yes, it is
Xavi - 05:05:08 PM there is soe echo
Xavi - 05:05:33 PM yes, I thought so
Fred - 11:05:19 AM is the any better
Xavi - 05:05:35 PM yes much better
Pascal St-Jean - 11:05:10 AM I'm muted
Pascal St-Jean - 11:05:23 AM hey luci
Fred - 11:05:39 AM Luci — please join the voice conference
Pascal St-Jean - 11:05:31 AM if you join voice conference Fred is giving us a tour
Xavi - 05:06:08 PM Fred, one comment:
Xavi - 05:06:19 PM the tooltip for the headphone icon is not intuitive
Fred - 11:06:05 AM sure
Xavi - 05:06:27 PM it says start my mic
Xavi - 05:06:31 PM not join the audio conference
Pascal St-Jean - 11:06:05 AM luci is in
Fred - 11:06:21 AM yes ... good point
Xavi - 05:06:40 PM ok
Xavi - 05:07:02 PM luci, I can't hear
Xavi - 05:07:06 PM are you speaking?
Fred - 11:06:55 AM yes
Pascal St-Jean - 11:06:44 AM i should be muted
Xavi - 05:07:20 PM mmmmm
Xavi - 05:07:26 PM I can't hear anybody now
Fred - 11:07:24 AM Xavi, I'm going to try kicking you out of the voice conference
Fred - 11:07:27 AM then you can re-join
Xavi - 05:07:45 PM ok
Xavi - 05:08:05 PM yes, it worked
Xavi - 05:08:07 PM yes
Fred - 11:10:03 AM Just reconnect Xavi
Pascal St-Jean - 11:10:34 AM we'll its all about pushing it this week )
Pascal St-Jean - 11:10:56 AM I don't see him on Skype either
Pascal St-Jean - 11:10:59 AM maybe internet drop
luci - 05:11:48 PM wb Xavi
Fred - 11:12:07 AM can you hear?
luci - 05:12:30 PM i can
luci - 05:12:36 PM no idea about Xavi
Pascal St-Jean - 11:12:11 AM ok hey Luci can you share your screen
Pascal St-Jean - 11:12:17 AM 3rd button on top
Pascal St-Jean - 11:12:34 AM sure lets give it a go 😊
Pascal St-Jean - 11:12:55 AM sure I see it great
Pascal St-Jean - 11:13:08 AM 😂
Pascal St-Jean - 11:13:19 AM actually see it better due to the smaller resolution
Pascal St-Jean - 11:13:47 AM I tried setting it up on my Ubuntu install yesterday
Pascal St-Jean - 11:13:51 AM wasn't able to get it going
Pascal St-Jean - 11:14:01 AM maybe I didn't have the proper flash plugin
Pascal St-Jean - 11:14:29 AM ok
Pascal St-Jean - 11:15:02 AM I'll reach him on IRC
luci - 05:15:39 PM he is at home i guess
Pascal St-Jean - 11:15:42 AM Hey Xavi
Pascal St-Jean - 11:15:48 AM Fred suggested to restart your Browser
Pascal St-Jean - 11:15:53 AM Hey Gary
Pascal St-Jean - 11:15:57 AM Fred Gary is from Japan
Pascal St-Jean - 11:16:06 AM Gary if you have a headset
Pascal St-Jean - 11:16:12 AM you can join the VOIP
Pascal St-Jean - 11:16:16 AM we are all chatting away here
Gary Cunningham-Lee - 01:16:49 AM Hi guys
Pascal St-Jean - 11:16:26 AM click the Headset icon on the top
Pascal St-Jean - 11:17:15 AM Hey Gary
Pascal St-Jean - 11:18:08 AM Hey Fred, Xavi said he restarted his Browser 4 times
Gary Cunningham-Lee - 01:18:49 AM I can't hear anything. What do I need to do?
luci - 05:19:13 PM i have muted you
Pascal St-Jean - 11:18:43 AM somebody say something for Gary
Fred - 11:18:59 AM Hmmm...
Pascal St-Jean - 11:18:54 AM Gary is muted right now
Fred - 11:19:15 AM Gary, can you us
luci - 05:19:30 PM we heard you gary
Pascal St-Jean - 11:19:28 AM Great 😊
Pascal St-Jean - 11:23:14 AM Xavi is rebooting his computer
Pascal St-Jean - 11:23:23 AM he said his Flash on Ubuntu is sometimes unstable
Fred - 11:23:45 AM might be
Pascal St-Jean - 11:23:31 AM I was getting something similar yesterday on my Ubuntu install\
Fred - 11:24:10 AM hmm .... good to know
luci - 05:24:30 PM i just got an idea: could we have the same "Click to raise hand" in the voice participants list too ? so if someone wants to start talking he can mark himself to avoid "jumping-in-the-middle-of-discussion"
Pascal St-Jean - 11:24:55 AM That's a good idea Luci
Marc Laporte - 11:25:21 AM polom
Pascal St-Jean - 11:24:58 AM Hey Marc
luci - 05:25:32 PM yo marc
Pascal St-Jean - 11:25:03 AM join the VOIP
Pascal St-Jean - 11:25:12 AM click on the headset on top
Pascal St-Jean - 11:25:15 AM beside the website
Pascal St-Jean - 11:25:17 AM Hey Marc
Pascal St-Jean - 11:25:25 AM hum
Marc Laporte - 11:25:50 AM I hear you
Pascal St-Jean - 11:25:28 AM ok great
Marc Laporte - 11:25:56 AM but I doubt you hear me
Pascal St-Jean - 11:25:39 AM we don't hear you
luci - 05:26:13 PM we hear just some noise
Marc Laporte - 11:26:11 AM My Windows install is messed up
Pascal St-Jean - 11:25:50 AM Luci had a good idea
Marc Laporte - 11:26:21 AM just keep me muted
Pascal St-Jean - 11:26:02 AM about having a Raised Hand
Pascal St-Jean - 11:26:18 AM to try to get access to the presentation
Marc Laporte - 11:26:48 AM China always have more people
Marc Laporte - 11:26:50 AM 😊
Fred - 11:26:43 AM 😊
luci - 05:27:01 PM 😀
Marc Laporte - 11:27:02 AM I hear echo echo ... echo ... echo ...
Pascal St-Jean - 11:26:49 AM Hey Fred
luci - 05:27:29 PM echo is from gary
Pascal St-Jean - 11:26:59 AM is there a way to have a Deep Zoom on the Presentation
Marc Laporte - 11:27:47 AM yay Japan!
Pascal St-Jean - 11:27:41 AM noooooooo
Pascal St-Jean - 11:27:44 AM lol
luci - 05:28:17 PM 😀
Pascal St-Jean - 11:27:49 AM ok I'll shut off my webcam
Xavi - 05:29:25 PM hello again
Pascal St-Jean - 11:28:56 AM Xavi is in twice ?
Pascal St-Jean - 11:29:01 AM hello Xavi
luci - 05:29:37 PM wb Xavi
Xavi - 05:29:39 PM finaly! I?m in again
Fred - 11:29:25 AM He wants to be double-sure he is connected 😊
Marc Laporte - 11:29:38 AM Pascal: are you set-up to broadcast?
Xavi - 05:29:44 PM 😊
Xavi - 05:29:58 PM damn flash player 10.0 on linux
Pascal St-Jean - 11:29:34 AM broadcast?
Marc Laporte - 11:30:00 AM like a webcam and dedicated computer, somewhere up on the wall
Marc Laporte - 11:30:05 AM LGPL!! (yay)
Xavi - 05:30:16 PM 😊
Pascal St-Jean - 11:29:58 AM oh we can get Nelson's webcame
Pascal St-Jean - 11:30:01 AM webcam
Pascal St-Jean - 11:30:06 AM he has a standalone cam
Pascal St-Jean - 11:30:13 AM we can plug it to my laptop
luci - 05:30:48 PM this is great OpenSource application actually
Pascal St-Jean - 11:30:19 AM I have plenty of Ram
Pascal St-Jean - 11:30:36 AM I'll text Nelson to remind him
Fred - 11:31:00 AM http://code.google.com/p/bigbluebutton/wiki/BigBlueButtonVM
Pascal St-Jean - 11:30:48 AM Fred
Marc Laporte - 11:31:13 AM BBB is all-in-one, like Tiki 😊
Pascal St-Jean - 11:30:55 AM you should show how to have private Chats
luci - 05:31:32 PM Gary: maybe if you could use headphones
luci - 05:31:39 PM to avoid echo
Gary Cunningham-Lee - 01:31:55 AM I'm using headphones already. Maybe too close to mic ?
Marc Laporte - 11:31:52 AM log to wiki pages!
Pascal St-Jean - 11:31:32 AM exactly
Pascal St-Jean - 11:31:37 AM that would be the next step 😊
Pascal St-Jean - 11:31:45 AM get chat and playback into WikiPage
luci - 05:32:26 PM Gary: ah, ok, weird then 😊
Pascal St-Jean - 11:32:02 AM Lets get BigBlueTiki
Marc Laporte - 11:32:30 AM I don't see how to private chat
Xavi - 05:32:38 PM 😊
Pascal St-Jean - 11:32:16 AM beside the Send button
Xavi - 05:32:46 PM and here is video stored? (if stored)
Pascal St-Jean - 11:32:19 AM ther eis a Drop Down
luci - 05:32:50 PM marc: click the dropdown
Fred - 11:32:37 AM nothing is stored yet
Marc Laporte - 11:32:47 AM so we can do back store deals
Xavi - 05:32:52 PM s/here/where
Pascal St-Jean - 11:32:25 AM you can select a person
Pascal St-Jean - 11:32:28 AM and start private chat
Marc Laporte - 11:32:53 AM and we can gang up on someone
Fred - 11:32:54 AM the record and playback should be available (in first itteration) in early 2010
Marc Laporte - 11:33:05 AM let's all jump on xavi!
Xavi - 05:33:17 PM 😊
Pascal St-Jean - 11:32:48 AM lol
Marc Laporte - 11:33:22 AM why does it ding sometimes?
Pascal St-Jean - 11:33:31 AM it dings to let youknow someone has joined
Pascal St-Jean - 11:34:05 AM I guess he wanted to make a ding
Marc Laporte - 11:34:42 AM famous last words: what is this red button?
Fred - 11:34:43 AM 😊
Marc Laporte - 11:35:20 AM oups
Pascal St-Jean - 11:35:01 AM trying to mute marc
Pascal St-Jean - 11:35:03 AM sorry
luci - 05:35:38 PM 😊
Marc Laporte - 11:35:32 AM /me likes buttons, a little too much
Pascal St-Jean - 11:35:08 AM ah ok
Marc Laporte - 11:35:39 AM hahahahahhaha
Pascal St-Jean - 11:35:15 AM 😂
luci - 05:35:46 PM heheh, right
Marc Laporte - 11:35:49 AM we are good dogfooders
Pascal St-Jean - 11:35:33 AM sure this is great
Marc Laporte - 11:35:59 AM 7 years of bugfixing 😊
Xavi - 05:36:36 PM sorry if already answered. How did you remove the former presenttion?
Xavi - 05:36:47 PM I didn't see how to remove it
Marc Laporte - 11:36:55 AM why doesn't right click let me do stuff?
Xavi - 05:37:09 PM +1 MArc
Xavi - 05:37:18 PM I tried that
Marc Laporte - 11:37:16 AM I mean, related to the object I am right-clicking
Xavi - 05:37:22 PM 😊
luci - 05:37:29 PM because it's flash 😕
Xavi - 05:37:30 PM but flash app
luci - 05:38:50 PM well, it can be coded of course
Marc Laporte - 11:38:47 AM the sound is quite reliable
Xavi - 05:39:00 PM yes
Marc Laporte - 11:39:29 AM if everyone has headsets (to avoid echo), It should be as good as Gizmo
Pascal St-Jean - 11:40:25 AM agreed
Xavi - 05:41:57 PM luci, where was the button the share desktop?
Pascal St-Jean - 11:41:38 AM you need to make yourself presenter
Pascal St-Jean - 11:41:42 AM so click on your name
Xavi - 05:42:13 PM just to find out whether I see it now
Xavi - 05:42:15 PM ah, ok
Pascal St-Jean - 11:41:54 AM ok then 3rd button apears on top
Xavi - 05:42:30 PM ok
luci - 05:42:38 PM the share desktop refreshing isn't much fast
Xavi - 05:42:59 PM mmm, I raised my hand with the button. How did you notice that?
Pascal St-Jean - 11:42:31 AM I have my headset now
Pascal St-Jean - 11:42:35 AM you can unmute me
luci - 05:43:17 PM i see the hand icon Xavi
Xavi - 05:43:18 PM just as me? seing the hand icon on the participant?
Xavi - 05:43:30 PM ah, ok
Pascal St-Jean - 11:43:12 AM I'm trying to speak 😊
Pascal St-Jean - 11:43:16 AM did you see the mic move
Xavi - 05:43:54 PM ?
luci - 05:43:55 PM PAscal: nope 😛
Xavi - 05:44:06 PM ok, trying
Xavi - 05:44:09 PM to share desktop
Xavi - 05:44:38 PM so, not working on firefox
Xavi - 05:44:44 PM nobody see my desk, don't you?
Fred - 11:44:31 AM do you java java installed?
Pascal St-Jean - 11:44:19 AM I'm on Firefox
Xavi - 05:44:54 PM java, yes
Marc Laporte - 11:44:56 AM I just tested on WinXP that didn't have Flash. BBB says it will offer to install Flash, but it doesn't work
Fred - 11:45:02 AM http://java.sun.com/applets/jdk/1.4/demo/applets/ArcTest/example1.html
luci - 05:45:18 PM there is bug in Firefox about confirmation dialogs from flash iirc
Fred - 11:45:09 AM Xavi, can you try that link
Xavi - 05:45:25 PM yesterday I was using yugu, which is 100% java based
luci - 05:45:28 PM i am using Opera now here
Marc Laporte - 11:45:50 AM Most people already have Flash, so no biggie. I suggest just better error message.
luci - 05:46:02 PM Xavi: i don't see your desktop
Xavi - 05:46:14 PM ok, I'll try to reinstall the java applet thing on firefox
luci - 05:46:26 PM yuuguu 😊
Xavi - 05:46:28 PM and I will try with other browser...
Xavi - 05:46:30 PM 😊
Pascal St-Jean - 11:47:03 AM http://tikiwiki.org/BigBlueButton+Dogfood&bl=n
luci - 05:48:01 PM Q: we can kick someone from voice chat, can't we from chat or web participants ?
Pascal St-Jean - 11:48:11 AM I think so
Pascal St-Jean - 11:49:01 AM Fred you still there?
Xavi - 05:50:44 PM I installed java applet (icetea etc). Restarting browser
Xavi - 05:50:49 PM back in a few secs
Pascal St-Jean - 11:50:29 AM sure sounds good Xavi
luci - 05:51:33 PM your sceen seems corrupted to me
Pascal St-Jean - 11:51:06 AM same here
Pascal St-Jean - 11:51:10 AM I see a black window
luci - 05:53:06 PM how can i stop my microphone so no moderator can unmute me ?
Gary Cunningham-Lee - 01:53:16 AM chat is working again
luci - 05:53:23 PM kick myself from voice participants ?
Fred - 11:53:37 AM yes ...
Gary Cunningham-Lee - 01:53:57 AM chat input stops when in fullscreen mode
Pascal St-Jean - 11:55:01 AM ok so there is currently a bug when trying to quick Voice Conference
luci - 05:55:32 PM brb
Pascal St-Jean - 11:55:26 AM so if you want to leave voice conference. Just logout
luci - 05:56:17 PM but if i wanna stay and only hear the talks ?
Marc Laporte - 11:56:11 AM hey!!!
Pascal St-Jean - 11:55:52 AM your computer is Buzzing 😂
Marc Laporte - 11:56:18 AM discrimation!
Marc Laporte - 11:56:23 AM 😊
Marc Laporte - 11:56:32 AM I am muzzled!
Pascal St-Jean - 11:56:11 AM 😊
Marc Laporte - 11:56:39 AM where is free speech!
Pascal St-Jean - 11:56:21 AM 😂
Marc Laporte - 11:56:47 AM voices in my head
Marc Laporte - 11:56:53 AM they need to come out!
Gary Cunningham-Lee - 01:57:14 AM sorry, marc, only non-buzzers allowed here
Gary Cunningham-Lee - 01:57:26 AM 😊
Marc Laporte - 11:57:23 AM /me officially reserves the blue color
luci - 05:57:47 PM hah
Marc Laporte - 11:57:53 AM wait
luci - 05:58:00 PM we need irc nick style highlighting 😉
Xavi - 05:58:00 PM back
luci - 05:58:07 PM or irc bridge even 😉
Fred - 11:57:58 AM I'm going to head out
Marc Laporte - 11:58:12 AM Fred: is there a way for us to make your computer beep?
Fred - 11:58:04 AM nice to meet everyone
Gary Cunningham-Lee - 01:58:29 AM thanks, Fred
Pascal St-Jean - 11:58:00 AM Thanks everynoe
Xavi - 05:58:34 PM nice to meet you, FReed and thanks for help
Fred - 11:58:22 AM you can add me to msn frederick_dixon at hotmail.com
Fred - 11:58:24 AM or skype as ffdixon
Pascal St-Jean - 11:58:09 AM we'll be using this to Broadcast
luci - 05:58:41 PM thank you fred
Xavi - 05:58:43 PM s/freed/Fred -)
luci - 05:58:50 PM it was great demo
Marc Laporte - 11:58:48 AM hehe, ok, one day, I hope we don't need MSN
Fred - 11:58:45 AM $1,s/great/awesome/g 😊
Pascal St-Jean - 11:58:36 AM I'll copy out Chat before I leave
Pascal St-Jean - 11:58:46 AM save it in WikiPAge