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Site breadcrumbs not working?

posts: 11 United States

I'm curious about site breadcrumbs. The behavior I would expect is that as a visitor clicks through articles, the breadcrumb would include each article in the drill-through path. But I'm only seeing the top level path with the current article.

For example, if the user clicked an artible three deep, it might look like this:

Encyclopedia > Titles > Artists

But what I'm getting is:

Encyclopedia > Artists

Any intermediate articles drop off the breadcrumb and you only see the current article in the breadcrumb.

Any thoughts as to why this is happening? Is this the normal behavior? Or am I missing some setting?

Thanks in advance!

Starlock

posts: 4657 Japan

Just to be clear, are you talking about the breadcrumbs option that can be activated on the Site Identity admin page, and by articles do you mean wiki pages (different from articles in Articles feature)? If so, in my experience this is fairly useless.

I think the problem is that wikis in general don't have a set hierarchy of pages, so a conventional breadcrumbs trail (indicating the way back through the "branches" to the "trunk") doesn't really apply. There is no consistent trail to any given wiki page (no "deep") since it's a flat hierarchy. (The exception being pages in a structure, which do have a consistent set of relationships set by the admin. Structure breadcrumbs do function the expected way.)

Tiki also doesn't have a set hierarchy for features, etc., so the Site Identity breadcrumbs are pretty useless outside of the wiki pages as well. A breadcrumbs trail with two links isn't really very helpful.

Tiki does have a breadcrumbs module, that lists visited wiki pages, most-recent first. This also works OK in my experience, but is in a side column rather than at the page top, so might not be noticed/recognized by users.

Does this help?

-- Gary

posts: 11 United States

> Just to be clear, are you talking about the breadcrumbs option that can be activated on the Site Identity admin page, and by articles do you mean wiki pages (different from articles in Articles feature)? If so, in my experience this is fairly useless.
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> I think the problem is that wikis in general don't have a set hierarchy of pages, so a conventional breadcrumbs trail (indicating the way back through the "branches" to the "trunk") doesn't really apply. There is no consistent trail to any given wiki page (no "deep") since it's a flat hierarchy. (The exception being pages in a structure, which do have a consistent set of relationships set by the admin. Structure breadcrumbs do function the expected way.)
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> Tiki also doesn't have a set hierarchy for features, etc., so the Site Identity breadcrumbs are pretty useless outside of the wiki pages as well. A breadcrumbs trail with two links isn't really very helpful.
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> Tiki does have a breadcrumbs module, that lists visited wiki pages, most-recent first. This also works OK in my experience, but is in a side column rather than at the page top, so might not be noticed/recognized by users.
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> Does this help?
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> — Gary

Hi Gary,

This helped quite a bit. It reminded me of that breadcrumbs module you mentioned, as I recall installing it but don't see it. When I checked on this, I realized that I had not set the security so the module was not displaying. After correcting this, the module now appears and guess what wink, the breadcrumbs now work as I would have expected.

You are correct that the module appears on the side and may pose a problem but I don't think that is a big deal. The real nice feat that I'm pleased with, is that the breadcrumbs along the top of the page now include the full drill-down path.

Thanks for the friendly tip and help.

Regards,
Starlock