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Roundtable Meeting 2017 11

Volunteering Facilitator: Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist

When

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Time was set by participants vote: See history

Thursday, November 23rd, 2017 at 14:00:00 UTC time (click for time zone in your city)

What

See Roundtable Meetings for a detailed description.

Fixing Community Items session

(Why this?)
Closing the Roundtable time we use available time to organize a session to fix a list of bugs from the reports at https://dev.tiki.org/Community+items#Summary and https://dev.tiki.org/Community+items#List

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Tiki community issues (no coding) where volunteers are needed

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Where

http://live.tiki.org

Topics

1st hour quick news

  1. Tiki 18 release process -> branching
  2. TikiFestFosdem2018 - can we confirm dates yet?
  3. ...

Second hour, longer topics

  1. If not completed or scheduled, branching should be done
  2. changelog.txt nomore generated anywhere - makes it sense to still use the commit [TAG]s? luciash d’ being
  3. ...

Recording

Follow-Up

Post-branching Checklist

Taken from https://dev.tiki.org/How%20to%20release#Post-branching_operations

1.1.1. Post-branching operations

  • ✔ In lib/setup/wiki.php, update $profilesLink to the new branch

1.1.1.2. Make new profiles

1.1.1.3. dev.tiki.org

  • ✔ Create branch page. i.e.: Tiki18
    • (?) Move the current alias from the old branch to the new created one
  • ✔ Add the branch as an option for the Tiki Version field in the Bugs & Wish list tracker
  • ✔ Update Daily Build (You need to ask Oliver Hertel to add new versions)
  • ✔ Update Get code
  • ✔ Update Where to Commit
  • ✔ Update Semi automatic merging period

1.1.1.4. show.tiki.org

  • First add the new branch to the dropdown in templates/trackerinput/showtikiorg.tpl
  • Remember to backport to the version that the actual dev is running
  • in the show server checkout the new branch into usr/local/src/tiki
  • in the show server add the branch to /usr/local/sbin/tim-common BRANCHES="trunk 12.x 13.x"
  • Refresh the instances by calling right away the cron: /usr/local/sbin/tim-cron
  • Once dev.tiki.org updates, it should then work.

1.1.1.5. demo.tiki.org

  • Create a site for new version

1.1.1.6. Pre-dogfood servers

  • Each tw:Pre-Dogfood Server should be moved from trunk to the next branch and each site should go through at least 30 minutes of manual testing of the most common operations.
    Ex.: on http://nextdev.tiki.org, someone should try to report a bug, or on http://nextdoc.tiki.org try and add a new page to a structure (even though it all will be overwritten the next day).
    • the instances need to svn switch and refreshed immediately, e.g.
      +svn switch https://svn.code.sf.net/p/tikiwiki/code/branches/13.x .
      +sh setup.sh -n fix
      +php console.php database:update
    • /usr/local/bin/refresh-nxt.sh needs to be updated so the next cron switches to the right branch
    • A couple of days before the release the cronjob to do a full upgrade including DB-sync from live sites must be disabled so that designers and gardeners can test/learn/prepare for the upgrade of the live community sites.
    • After release the /usr/local/bin/refresh-nxt.sh needs to be changed to trunk again and the full upgrade cron job reenabled.

Chat log

Torsten Fabricius (Torsten): I have no working microphone
Torsten Fabricius (Torsten): So I try to listen
Guest: Asa: php doc/devtools/svnbranch.php branches/18.x
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): https://dev.tiki.org/How+to+release
Roberto Kirschbaum (robertokir): Here's an interesting list of stars when it comes the time: http://petergreenaway.org.uk/100stars.htm
Guest: Asa: any way to disable this "you are now (un)muted" audio when I mute/unmute?
amette: Asa: I don't think so.
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): https://tiki.org/Roundtable-Meeting-2017-11
luciash d' being (luci): /me goes to update https://dev.tiki.org/Where-to-commit
Guest: Asa: Branch created: https://sourceforge.net/p/tikiwiki/code/HEAD/tree/branches/18.x/
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): http://sourceforge.net/p/tikiwiki/code/64697
Guest: Asa: clicked a link here and left call :-/
Gary Cunningham-Lee (chibaguy): Sorry about the noise. Family playing cards nearby.
luciash d' being (luci): :)
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Hi to your family, Gary!
Gary Cunningham-Lee (chibaguy): They say hi back :-).
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): How was the cheese, BTW?
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): I'm muted!!! I can't make noise
Gary Cunningham-Lee (chibaguy): We have saved the cheese until after moving house (to celebrate), so didn't have it yet, as we're still in the process.
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Ahhh…
Gary Cunningham-Lee (chibaguy): (We moved but still have to finish clearing out the previous house and organizing in the new one.)
Guest: Asa: I wasn't considering going to FOSSDEM until now (in fact I was not aware yet :-) ). Will think about it, maybe I can join the tiki airbnb
Torsten Fabricius (Torsten): (y)
Guest: Asa: https://sourceforge.net/p/tikiwiki/code/64698
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): php doc/devtools/svnbranchupdate.php branches/18.x
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): svn commit -F svn-commit.tmp
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): https://dev.tiki.org/SVN+Tips#Merging_branch_to_trunk_while_releasing
Guest: Asa: Verifying...This script is likely not to be appropriate for this working copy. This script can be used in:trunk
Guest: Asa: Path: .Working Copy Root Path: /home/lfagundes/devel/tikitrunkURL: svn+ssh://lfagundes@svn.code.sf.net/p/tikiwiki/code/trunkRelative URL: ^/trunkRepository Root: svn+ssh://lfagundes@svn.code.sf.net/p/tikiwiki/codeRepository UUID: b456876b-0849-0410-b77d-98878d47e9d5Revision: 64698Node Kind: directorySchedule: normalLast Changed Author: jonnybradleyLast Changed Rev: 64696Last Changed Date: 2017-11-23 12:14:32 -0200 (Qui, 23 Nov 2017)
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Asa: Fosdem is awesome. I used to go there before I even knew about Tiki
Guest: Asa: https://svn.code.sf.net/p/tikiwiki/code/trunksvn+ssh://lfagundes@svn.code.sf.net/p/tikiwiki/code/trunk
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): amette has an icon problem, not a microphone problem :)
amette: yeah, seems so :)
amette: It showed me "You got disconnected, trying to reconnect" earlier...
amette: ... it apparently managed... except for the icon..
amette: brb
amette: muting myself via the icon wasn't possible either - icon problem indeed
Guest: Asa: The provided source cannot be used to update this working copy. Only experimental branches can be used.
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): php doc/devtools/svnbranchupdate.php branches/18.x
luciash d' being (luci): Bernard's watches are always confused it seems :)
Guest: Asa: Path: .Working Copy Root Path: /home/lfagundes/devel/trunkURL: https://svn.code.sf.net/p/tikiwiki/code/trunkRelative URL: ^/trunkRepository Root: https://svn.code.sf.net/p/tikiwiki/codeRepository UUID: b456876b-0849-0410-b77d-98878d47e9d5Revision: 64698Node Kind: directorySchedule: normalLast Changed Author: jonnybradleyLast Changed Rev: 64696Last Changed Date: 2017-11-23 12:14:32 -0200 (Qui, 23 Nov 2017)
Guest: Asa: if (! is_experimental($source)) {error("The provided source cannot be used to update this working copy. Only experimental branches can be used.");}
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): php doc/devtools/svnbranchupdate.php branches/18.x
Guest: Asa: php doc/devtools/svnbranchupdate.php branches/18.x
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez): Hello all
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): https://www.airbnb.co.uk/rooms/7819676?location=Brussels%2C%20Belgium&children=0&infants=0&adults=10&guests=10&check_in=2018-02-02&check_out=2018-02-08&tier_override=0&s=RNpjsCT2
Guest: Asa: noise from someone
Guest: Asa: jean marc
Guest: Asa: I think the merge didn't work
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): https://www.airbnb.co.uk/rooms/17443396?location=Brussels%2C%20Belgium&children=0&infants=0&adults=10&guests=10&check_in=2018-02-02&check_out=2018-02-08&tier_override=0&s=zgdvRv2u
Guest: Asa: ah, ok, the script doesn't commit
Guest: Asa: I just commited after verification
Guest: Asa: failed, wait
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez): sorry, back in 5mn
Guest: Asa: now it worked
Guest: Asa: https://sourceforge.net/p/tikiwiki/code/64702
Guest: Asa: Just in time for you to get your kid :-)
Gary Cunningham-Lee (chibaguy): I'll be back shortly.
Gary Cunningham-Lee (chibaguy): back
Guest: Asa: Changelog is now generated by a script (doc/devtools/release.php)
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez): firefox, flash and bbb are pretty capricious... :(
amette: Bernard: yes, latest FF won't work at all - no flash any more... use Chromium for now.
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez): same here Chrome
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez): (now)
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez): Amette: I meant I switched to Chrome now and it work.
amette: *thumbsup*
Guest: Asa: This was more a collective button pressing ritual
amette: *g*
luciash d' being (luci): branching != release ;)
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez): gna gna gna
Guest: Asa: full tiki log has 178k lines :-)
Gary Cunningham-Lee (chibaguy): :)
Guest: Asa: ok, I'll leave so, and create the Tiki18 page with changelog later. Have little time to have lunch.
Guest: Asa: bye!
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez): == Thu Nov 23 16:20:53 CET 2017 TIM action: UPDATEPath: .Working Copy Root Path: /var/www/bsfez-11581-6481URL: https://svn.code.sf.net/p/tikiwiki/code/trunkRelative URL: ^/trunkRepository Root: https://svn.code.sf.net/p/tikiwiki/codeRepository UUID: b456876b-0849-0410-b77d-98878d47e9d5Revision: 63836Node Kind: directorySchedule: normalLast Changed Author: drsassafrasLast Changed Rev: 63640Last Changed Date: 2017-08-24 06:41:36 +0200 (Thu, 24 Aug 2017)
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez): Not good still using the same old
luciash d' being (luci): Thanks all, I will leave now. Bye! Last one switch the record button off ;)
Roberto Kirschbaum (robertokir): Will leave too, bye bye!
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez): http://bsfez-11581-6481.show.tikiwiki.org/info.txt
Gary Cunningham-Lee (chibaguy): I have to go now. See you later.
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez): http://bsfez-11581-6481.show.tikiwiki.org/

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