Roundtable Meeting 2026 03
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Volunteering Facilitator: (Franck Sefu)
When
Our monthly meetings are the third Thursday of each month at 14h UTC.
Thursday, March 19th, 2026 at 14:00:00 UTC time
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Where
What
See Roundtable Meetings for a detailed description.
Topics
First hour, quick news
- Tiki 30.x has branched (updated from the Release Team?)
- REF Tiki Article: Remove expiration date feature (wasn't refactoring, it removed a useful feature and wasn't posted on Endangered features)
- schema.org support on its way to Tiki, discussion here
- ...
Put your topic (max. 5-10 minutes) into the list above
Second hour, longer topics
- gitignore discussions, should
_custombe ignored? I think it should be but others think not
- Dozens and dozens of MRs labelled to backport but they don't get done for months and months. Ex.: https://gitlab.com/tikiwiki/tiki/-/merge_requests/?sort=created_asc&state=merged¬%5Blabel_name%5D%5B%5D=Backported&label_name%5B%5D=CherryPickDownTo%3A%3A27.xLTS&first_page_size=20
- Should we continue as is, maybe we should tag fewer and make sure to get them done, or something else?
- Good question @marclporte, and some of them are mine, we definitely have more code coming in that we can safely handle at the moment - discuss 😋
- P.s. we used to be able to have unnumbered items as children of a numbered list, but no more - was that intentional? (and the numbering is all wrong, and the "cancel edit" button doesn't work any more!)
- Rants from some old guy(s)
- Further to my point last month on how many developers actually use Tiki? I'd like to expand on that a little with a couple of analogies:
• Imagine Tiki is a nice big old house, but there's a small crack in an attic window (bear with me 😉) - the solution applied was like replacing all the ground floor windows and doors with plastic bags, which sort of worked if you didn't look too closely.
• Another [FIX] description was so enigmatic and hard to understand it didn't make sense, but the fix was to remove 90% of the light switches!
Both of these regressions would have been spotted by someone using Tiki master on a regular basis, but were left for weeks before (grumpy old guy) took action and reverted them.
On a more positive note: my suggestion is, that if your fix is for a small thing, your code change should be small, preferably removing bad code, before adding more. I know most of the code being pushed looks great, is perfectly formatted and spelt, and passes the CI and unit tests, but so often leaves major features unusable (i.e. try uploading an image and adding it to a wiki page, or switching from wysiwyg to plain edit mode) - less is more! - Next..?
- Further to my point last month on how many developers actually use Tiki? I'd like to expand on that a little with a couple of analogies:
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Recording
Click here to watch the March 2026 meeting.
Follow-Up
- What should we do with merge requests tagged as backports but never actually backported? We should reduce unnecessary backports because sometimes they cause too many problems.
- We need to create a policy around merge requests in Tiki. If a merged MR prevents people from working, it should be reverted
Chat log
joel.magene
00:00:22
Hello everyone!
jo
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley)
00:03:05
https://dev.tiki.org/Tiki30
jo
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley)
00:04:39
https://gitlab.com/tikiwiki/tiki/-/merge_requests/?sort=updated_desc&state=opened&milestone_title=Tiki%2030.0&first_page_size=20
lu
luci
00:06:09
Hi, now I cannot hear anything. Great 😭
lu
luci
00:06:41
Ah, changed audio output Now it works
bi
bienvenu ushindi (usbbush)
00:06:59
Fortunately there is a record
ma
Marc Laporte (marclaporte)
00:08:55
Post-LTS is a good time for major removals
bi
bienvenu ushindi (usbbush)
00:09:04
https://dev.tiki.org/Regressions-in-30.x
lu
luci
00:09:17
Post-LTS would be even Tiki 31.0
lu
luci
00:09:36
And we would live to support it several years in 30x still (because LTS)
lu
luci
00:09:55
Support the legacy admin I mean
lu
luci
00:10:33
So I would prefer 30.1
je
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem)
00:15:17
That's a basic feature expected from articles, I think.
lu
luci
00:16:14
Imagine you have article for an event invitation - it makes sense to expire if the event is over?
lu
luci
00:16:39
How you make the permission apply by date?
je
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem)
00:16:57
It won't be automatically expired
lu
luci
00:17:37
Ah, PluginListExecute could perhaps do it (assign category by expired date) but it is power user setup
je
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem)
00:18:02
But where would the article's expiration date be stored?
jo
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley)
00:20:56
https://dev.tiki.org/schema.org
jo
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley)
00:21:30
https://gitlab.com/tikiwiki/tiki/-/merge_requests/9664
gu
Guest: Elvis
00:22:27
https://schema.org/
gu
Guest: Elvis
00:24:20
https://share.google/aimode/Ag9K5aDCg0WfxiVSG
lu
luci
00:28:52
Super. Looks useful!
lu
luci
00:31:15
Not related: Just a note... There are still couple of major usability bugs to be fixed in 30.x - I hope we catch them all before release
jo
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley)
00:31:53
Here's some structured data from a tiki site:
https://search.google.com/test/rich-results/result?id=QtH4l-3StMruQ4uk3Jyf3w
gu
Guest: Franck Sefu
00:33:24
Jonny, can you make me a presentor?
jo
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley)
00:33:43
https://gitlab.com/tikiwiki/tiki/-/merge_requests/9397
gu
Guest: Franck Sefu
00:34:09
thanks
gu
Guest: Gour
00:34:11
Hello everyone 🙏
lu
luci
00:36:06
Just to clarify. _custom is part of git but it is about ignoring everything inside it?
gu
Guest: Benoit Grégoire
00:36:34
https://gitlab.com/tikiwiki/tiki/-/merge_requests/9397
ga
Gary Cunningham-Lee (chibaguy)
00:42:13
(I wonder what's causing the strange indentation of the Second hour topics list.)
ga
Gary Cunningham-Lee (chibaguy)
00:44:44
(Oh, ok. It's intentional.)
lu
luci
00:48:35
(I wonder what's causing the strange indentation of the Second hour topics list.)
It is another bug (regression) with numbered lists
je
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem)
00:50:20
The indentation is correct. The numbering isn't 😒
lu
luci
00:52:03
(Edited)
"It was not a feature - it was a bug" 😁
gu
Guest: Gour
00:57:13
Why not just labelling things as 'fixes' vs 'backports' 🤔
lu
luci
00:58:36
Why not just labelling things as 'fixes' vs 'backports' 🤔
That is totally different things
lu
luci
00:59:14
Should be part of "Where to commit"
lu
luci
00:59:28
The "policy"
ma
Marc Laporte (marclaporte)
01:02:17
https://avan.tech/item118156
lu
luci
01:05:11
global evil
lu
luci
01:06:36
or custom style tags or link rel="stylesheet" would even work
lu
luci
01:07:00
(in minimal way)
lu
luci
01:12:19
It is problem where people try to call the headerlib?
lu
luci
01:14:23
Do we have something like https://dev.tiki.org/How-to-Headerlib ?
lu
luci
01:22:30
And no backporting please
lu
luci
01:23:43
Maybe later when master is thoroughly tested after the refactoring
lu
luci
01:33:07
The problem is "within hours" the author never knows when his MR is merged and if it needs to be reverted he/she might not be available at the time they are requested to fix it. So maybe within 12-24 hours sounds more reasonable?
lu
luci
01:35:07
The most difficult part to start the page is thinking of the page name 😁
ma
Marc Laporte (marclaporte)
01:35:30
So Franck volunteered!
gu
Guest: Jeff
01:35:59
I would recommend putting it in the square hole
lu
luci
01:36:36
I think I saw that video
gu
Guest: Jeff
01:36:58
For reference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUbIkNUFs-4
ro
Roberto Kirschbaum (robertokir)
01:37:13
See ya!
gu
Guest: Olivier Kango
01:37:18
BYe
br
Bruno Kambere (kambereBr)
01:37:20
Bye
je
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem)
01:37:21
Thanks
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