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Features / Usability


When non-admin looks at Structures listing, Modules misbehave

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Am I doing something wrong, or have I tripped over a bug. (Didn't find it in the bug list. So if it's a bug, should I add it to the bug list?)

As Admin I added Menu item 'Structures' to the Top Bar menu. Since I couldn't find a non-Admin URL I set the menu item to go to tiki-admin_structures.php, which lists the structures. This works. And, when I'm logged in as Admin, everything looks and behaves as it should.

But when I log in as non-Admin (i.e., Registered, in accordance with permissions for the menu item), the Right-Modules are missing (i.e., not visible), and the Left-Modules are pushed down past the bottom of the center Structures list. In other words, I can see the Left-Modules if I scroll down far enough.

Nothing else causes this to happen. Did I set up a Structures menu item incorrectly? Or is something broken?

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I've seen that happen before with some admin screens. Out of curiosity did you try using some different themes? I think the way some of the themes work when certain content is wider than normal then other things like modules tend to get pushed down.

Try something like "TheNews" or "Feb12"... Gary will probably be able to give clearer direction on some of the better themes to try (I think you need non html-table based themes).

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Which version of Tiki are you using?
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Tiki 5.0. I know there's a 5.1 out there, but I'd prefer not to upgrade everything on a hope.

Not sure about Tiki, of course, (-:, but the path for "oh, upgrade and see if it's better" is tiresome - unless it's certain that a particular upgrade fixes a particular problem.


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Ok, then one last theme change and I'm about ready to shut up shop. Try "Fivealive", I'm pretty sure that is one of the latest and greatest in terms of themes. (it's the one this site uses). This will tell us if it's a theme issue or a bug (or some combination thereof). You could also try different browsers if you have them available e.g. use Firefox instead of Internet Explorer. This is all in the interests of discovering the source of the problem, nobody is expecting you to permanently switch browsers to be able to use Tiki. wink

Having thought it about it some more I actually think you have two issues going on here (or maybe not). If the right hand modules are disappearing completely then that would tend to indicate some kind of permissions problem. Double-check tiki-admin.php?page=module page, and also make sure that for the right hand modules you've given permission to non-admin users to use them.

Tiki can be very infuriating at times but so many times I've found the issue to be something simple to resolve in the end.


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Susan, sorry for not responding sooner. It seems there is a div tag mismatch (between div opening and closing tags) on that page (in its .tpl file), from the appearance of the effect. The 'if/thens' in the page apparently expose the problem in the anonymous view but not in the admin view. If this is true, then it wouldn't matter which *lite.css-based theme is used, as all use the same .tpl file for listing structures (a theme that uses a table for layout, such as Dark Shine, is probably immune as broken divs tend to be contained by table cells). I'll see if I can hunt down the errant tag.

-- Gary

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Gary, You are correct - DarkShine looks fine. Unfortunately, it's not using an 'approved' color scheme, so it would be great to know how to fix the .tpl file. Thanks!