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Volunteering Facilitator: Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist

Who

Who plans to attend? (please vote for preferred times below)

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When

Sunday, March 22nd, 2020 at 13:00:00 UTC time (click to check time zone in your location)
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Votes

Votes

The time will be set by the participants vote:

Tiki Roundtable Meeting Time Votes

Voting ended:
19 Mar 2020 12:00 GMT-0000
19 Mar 2020 13:00 GMT-0000
19 Mar 2020 14:00 GMT-0000
19 Mar 2020 15:00 GMT-0000
19 Mar 2020 16:00 GMT-0000
19 Mar 2020 17:00 GMT-0000
19 Mar 2020 18:00 GMT-0000
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22 Mar 2020 14:00 GMT-0000
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Where

What

See Roundtable Meetings for a detailed description.

Topics

First hour, quick news

  1. Tiki 21 status
  2. Demo of the new plugin List Execute in action: clone item
  • https://gitlab.com/tikiwiki/tiki/-/commit/ea6f50574b0dc8e19fc5a5dd979686a0c10d872f (main)
  • https://gitlab.com/tikiwiki/tiki/-/commit/bec107dd655c236dc31abfc12c3a9bfddb2d4a13 (auto select fix)
  • https://gitlab.com/tikiwiki/tiki/-/commit/43e10f9d51baae9a4174e254973dd4ad8ab2e987 (checkbox fix)
  1. Quickly review the evolution of bug reporting in the last years. Some charts and tables made by several criteria:
    1. Nice, but very slow, let's look at facets too!
  2. Bug tracker improvements
    1. We now have conditional Tracker Field Rules - might they help?
    2. Priority field is the wrong way up, a higher number means lower priority - also, incomplete ones show as 0 (top priority)

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Second hour, longer topics

  1. Git commit/merge request/fork improve/updated guidelines
    After the Tiki 21 release experience and due to a certain numbers of discussions (devlist and gitlab) we need to adjust and improve our guidelines on Git and Tiki.
    Also we switched from SVN to Git so we need to be sure all people are good with that and will be able to participate
    Related discussions in the mailin list (https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum.php?forumId=26)
    • Tiki-devel: Semi-automatic merging also Re: Tikiwiki-cvs/svn SF.net SVN: tikiwiki:75741 trunk

      Fabio on 4/03/2020:
      Well, I vote for each developer applying his fixes in each branch. This is one of tasks Git makes easy. But I can help you. I misbehave on that because I know my fixes would be magically ported from one branch to another.
      Brendon on 10/03/2020:
      Ok, so its a clear consensus that automated back ports of fixes into LTS is a bad idea.

      So the question is. Do we abandon our automated porting? Do we continue to forward port, or do we back-port within development versions? Or a combination there of.

    • Tiki-devel: Create your fork

      Fabio wrote on 4/03/2020:
      Forks are nice. Using forks we can eat spaghetti, potatoes, olives and also, we can develop Tiki!

      I know that should be straightforward creating branches in main repository,but that makes a little mess on subgit bridge and SourceForge branches folder.

      So, if you don't mind creating branches in a fork, it would be awesome.

      You don't even need a separate folder for your fork. Use the Tiki folder you already have.

      Let's say I'm creating Tiki mustache. But cloned from main repository and the mustache will take some time to make it beautiful. I need a branch.

      1) Create a fork (my fork is git at gitlab.com:fabiomontefuscolo/tiki.git)

      2) Add your fork as a remote to your local repository

      >> git remote add fabio git at gitlab.com:fabiomontefuscolo/tiki.git

      3) Create the branch you need

      >> git checkout -b cowboy-mustache

      4) Work, make commits .. if your branch lasts for more than one day ... update it getting changes from origin (the main repository). Let's say I branched from master, I get updates from master.

      if you already pushed cowboy-mustache in the past:
      >> git fetch origin
      >> git merge origin/master

      OR

      if your branch is just a local branch
      >> git fetch origin
      >> git rebase origin/master

      5) Save it to your forked repo

      >> git push -u fabio cowboy-mustache

      6) Mustache is ready, send it to main repository

      If you want to open a MergeRequest, do it in Gitlab pannel

      OR

      If you want to send it directly to main git repository

      >> git checkout master
      >> git merge cowboy-mustache
      >> git push origin master

    • Tiki-devel: Minor releases

      Fabio wrote on 4/03/2020:
      Hi people!

      I would like to understand about minor releases cycle. It is not clear to me when we release the minor releases, but surely, it is less frequent than I would like.

      If there is no rule to create a minor release, why don't we make it weekly or bi-weekly, so we can have updated packages for download with all vendor_bundled installed?

      Honestly, I don't like the approach of downloading Tiki in the server and building it there. On server I am not the admin, I have argue a lot with the administrator to install build tools to have an updated TikiWiki software.

      Thank you!

    • Clarification needed about Tiki GIT usage

      bsfez wrote on 5/03/2020:
      - Light fixes, translation, doc and commit by VIP coder => merged to the repo directly
      - More complex fixes or commit done by newbee or requiring approval before being merged => create a merge request, wait for approval
      - For feature that require experimental branch => use a fork branch
      Fabio:
      I suggest MR authors poke someone in the community to review the changes, to avoid MR stuck forever. The reason is simple: each member in the community has knowledge in different parts in Tiki. I don't feel confident to review requests related to Tracker calculations for example. So, asking directly some would be better.

      You might ask, how to search for the correct person? ... I also suggest reading logs of files you are changing to find out who is the author of past changes. These authors might be a good person to review it.

    • Tiki-devel: Before start coding on 21.x today

      Fabio wrote on 26/02/2020:

      1. to save your uncommitted stuff

      $ git stash

      1. go to 21.x

      $ git checkout 21.x

      1. get changes I had to resync

      $ git fetch https://gitlab.com/tikiwiki/tiki.git 21.x

      1. ahhh dirtyness

      $ git reset --hard FETCH_HEAD

      before coding on 21.x any other day

      $ git pull --rebase

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