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    Posted by megayoshipower posts: 16

    Hello. I am a beginner TikiWiki and English language, so I may have trouble finding some questions already answered, so ask the help and understanding of you, please.

    It is possible that the address of a Wiki page can be "this_is_my_page" instead of "this+is+my+page"? How can I change this setting?

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    Posted by Torsten Fabricius posts: 1563 Germany

    Hi megayoshipower,

    tell me, where are you coming from= Which languages you are speaking apart from English?

    We have people from different countries, from all over the world here. But anyway, your English seems ok - I will write a bit slower for you 😀 .

    Kidding.

    Yes megayoshipower it is possible to use "_" instead of "+", but as far as I know only from the next Tiki version, which will be Tiki 14. I have seen this recently and tried myself (successfully).

    In Tiki 14  (today called Tiki trunk or Tiki pre-14 trunk) there is a preference in the wiki administration dashboard which you find with the link (example):

    yourdomain.com/tiki-admin.php?page=wiki

    You could tell us a bit more about your project and then we could maybe recommend you if it would be tter to use Tiki 12 LTS for another while, or better to start off with the latest Tiki trunk versionas the release of Tiki 14 is coming in only a few weeks. I use it for a productive collaboration project and it is quite stable for the average use.

    Best regards and welcome in the Tiki community,

    Torsten


    Posted by megayoshipower posts: 16

    Hello, Torsten Fabricius, I'm Brazilian, but it seens the Brazilian comunity is a little abandoned.

    I'm a big fan of Digimon Adventure and am developing a website in TikiWiki about this series. 

    I am facing some problems to make a website that I want, but nothing too much. For example, I was wondering if there is any way to configure the menu modules to stay contracted by default.

    Anyway, is there some way to put underline in the code struture of TikiWiki?

    Thanks
    MegaYoshiPower (Lucas)

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    Posted by Torsten Fabricius posts: 1563 Germany

    Hi Lucas,

    so you speak Portuguese (pt-br).  Yes, we have not so many active users from Brasil or Portugal. Rodrigo, who developped a lot for us stepped back a bit from activity, but still is in the community. A very helpful and pleasant guy.

    As far as I know, many people who speak Portuguese, understand (or speak aswell) some Spanish - so maybe chances to get help in one more language !?

    We will try our best in English anyway.

    As you just develop a new site and it seems, that you want to make use of the new design opportunities, Bootstrap offers, I recommend you to upgrade to trunk (meaning latest build of pre-14). I just upgraded two projects to the latest trunk and I love it!.

    By the way,: Gary who answered in the other thread is one of the guys who bring Bootstrap into the core - he has had his hjands on nearly all template files ofthe new bootstrapped Tiki and he did a fantastic job (imho)

    As you are just developping your project,  go for Trunk/pre-14, as you will have the new themes directory structure there, you will find the "_" underscore option, most of the icons are fontawesomed,etc..

    Tiki 13 is nice - great job, but is was at all meant as an interim stage in respect of the bootstrappification process.

    And Tiki 14 will be branched really soon and released very early next year.

    And try out different themes - you will access them a bit easier in Tiki 14 aswell.


    Contracted Menus - isn't that default anyway, or do I missunderstand? Is there a public link to the site where you could show us?

    Best regards,
    Torsten

     


    Posted by Torsten Fabricius posts: 1563 Germany

    Hi,

    for me the menus look contracted. So I assume we miht have a language problem.

    To make the forum threads more usable for other users who search helpful comments, I'd like to ask you, to be so kind and open a new thread for the menus, if you still have questions to the menus.

    You could name it maybe "Contracted menus in Ti 13 / 14" or so.

    But we should first evaluate what you mean with "contracted" ... I guess you mean either "folded OUT" (opened, see all) or "folded UP" (closed, see only top level) ... but I am not shure what you mean.

    Maybe you do not like the decoration of the module box and you want to set the option decoration=n (no title and no titlebackground) or even nobox=y (plain menu)


    Posted by megayoshipower posts: 16

    I think that I can't understand how to upgrade to the Truck version. '-'
     


    Posted by Torsten Fabricius posts: 1563 Germany

    Are you downloading Tiki as a packaged ZIP file, or are you using SVN?

    I assume you use a ZIP file.

    SVN would be similar like a "rolling release" and you do mage this either from the linux command line or from specific GUI clients, which are ailable for Win/Mac/Linux ...

    The downloadlink for the "daily build" is here (click) Wikipage on dev: Daily Build.

    The  daily build is autopackaged every  6 hours and good for development. You can continuously upgrade it  and later upgrade to the released 14, before you go productive with your site.

    Upgrade procedure:

    • goto the webserver
       
    • create a second (empty) directory besides your Tiki installation (same level as tikiroot and copy the extrackted daily build into this folder)

    OR

    • unpack / unzip the "daily build" directly  into the same folder as the tikiroot (besides it, same level)
       
    • backup your database (mysql dump, if you have shellaccess)
       
    • copy custom files into corresponding directories (folders) from old tikiroot to new tikiroot
       
    • point the domain form the old to the new tikiroot
       
    • start the installer in your browser - yourdomain.com/tiki-install.php
       
    • click through,enter database credentials, click use existing database, accept the next steps (continue .... ) and the "enter AND lock"
       
    • Login - iIt is possible that you have to cange / reassign the theme.
       
    • => This should be everything

    With SVN the proces is slightly different, as you need shell access.
    From 13 to 14 you could either change branch to trunk with "svn diff" and "svn switch" commands, but better follow the rule and make "svn checkout path." besides the old tikiroot (the rest is the same).

    For SVN hints see here (click)

     

    Regards,
    T.

     

     

     



    Posted by Torsten Fabricius posts: 1563 Germany

    Ouch, CKE did eat my long description args.

    Now I am kind of busy, so I just rewrite in very brief, based on the assumption that you work on a Linux shell and used svn to checkout the code.

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    $: sh setup.sh
message: ~ which option you want to choose?
$: c
this runs the composer - a script that gets and installes the missing vendor files.

    After that stay in the setup or run it again and choose one of the file permission fixing options - details when you use the permission check (see docs or ask here again) - default would be the option f, which is not the safest, but necessary on most shared hosting. should work mostly.

    This is because the webapplication (Tiki) needs read/write permission to certain subdirectories as for example the cache directoiries.

    When you later store files in the directory (not in tikiroot/files for security reason), you have to create and chmod the ../files/gallery ../files/whatelseyouneed etc. aswell - in worst case to 777.

    So after the composer has downloaded and installed the vendor files:

    code.

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    $: sh setup.sh
if it was closed)
$: f
and follow the procedure of installation - any more question you can answer by simply accepting empty - all options you can later configure in Tiki - just click through.
Important, that you at some time receive a message like ~ "fixing dirs permissions" ... "done" or so (I do not recall the exact wording, as I just use to click though and it is an obvious dialogue)
$: x
(exit)


    Then run the installer in the browser again.

    Regards,
    Torsten



    Posted by megayoshipower posts: 16

    Sorry Torsten Fabricius, but I'm confused. I try to do what you say, but it gives an error in the Console. See attachment.


    I host my website in Hostinger, which has an auto-installer for version 12.
    I had no problems installing version 13, noting that there is no auto-installer for version 13.

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    Posted by Torsten Fabricius posts: 1563 Germany

    Hi,

    your provider is offering you a very limited web-shell. So no chance to go this route.

    You either need a real SSH account (can be limited to some extend as with all-inkl.com shared hosting premium+ and need not necessarily be full root) ...
    ... or you need to download a package, upload to the server, unpack there and go the "traditional" way.

    Find Tiki (pre-14) trunk version to download here:

    http://dev.tiki.org/Daily+Build

    Regards,
    Torsten

    Posted by megayoshipower posts: 16

    What? 

    I uncompressed the traditional way. I made up the original in a folder and uploaded version 14.

    I do not know why you gave me the link of the version 14.

    Posted by Torsten Fabricius posts: 1563 Germany

    Oh sorry, I did missread your previous post where you mentioned that there was no Tiki 13 autoinstaller.

    My bad!

    So if the lastiki_trunk.zip has not included the vendor files, there must be a bug, as they have to be included - I am just now installing the package locally, but soon have to leave the house and will finish lateron, in Case I will not be ready to report berfore I go.

    We will get there, sure 😉

    T.

    Posted by Torsten Fabricius posts: 1563 Germany

    Hi,

    I did just run into the same issue than you.

    On my side it was somehow due to server settings that I other than usual and other than recommended had to first fix the file permissions with option f and after that could start the composer with option c.

    Your web-shell cannot start the setup script and not start the composer, so you are stuck right now.

    The only way we could try, if you want it quick, is that I ZIP my fresh installation (I just ran the composer) and send it to you. Anyway I will discuss with the dev, that the downloadable packages must include the vendor files and ask why this is not in this case.

    I appreciate your patience.
    Torsten

    Posted by megayoshipower posts: 16

    Can you use the simplificed English? I really cannot understand almost nothing you write :/
    Sorry, English speaker begginer.


    Posted by megayoshipower posts: 16
    Regarding the menu, I was talking to maximize and minimize the menu module. I asked how he let minimized by default (when you enter the site, you see it minimized).
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    Posted by Torsten Fabricius posts: 1563 Germany

    Hi,

    ah now I understand what you mean.

    There might or might not be an option, but with bootstrap an all the new things, I would rather suggest to develop an "Off-Canvas" menu based on one of those free jQuery Plugins (maybe with a non-java-script fall-back, which I recommend strongly for accessibility reason).

    This will maybe not the easiest way to do for the first time, but in the very end, I imagine a solution lookingnd feeling much times nicer and fancier than a possible click-on/off option.

    I'd suggest to Off-Canvas the whole column in the template directly ...

    Anyway: there is an option to allow to toggle the menu!

    Thus it must exist (or be easy to implement) an option to togggle by default.

    I suggest you check out aswell at /tiki-admin_menus.php as in the module specific configuration at /tiki-admin_modules.php where you applied the module for the menu.

    Regards,

    Torsten