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Several problems with TikiWiki 6.2 and 7.0

posts: 10

Hi,

After using TikiWiki 6.2 for several months, I patiently waited for some bugs to be fixed in 7.0, but now it's there and I've even discovered new bugs while my old issues remain unsolved. So here's the list - I hope that some of these are my mistakes rather than real bugs, so I don't have to wait for a fix by the developers.

1) Login cookie: actually, I realized this in many TikiWiki installations, not only in those I managed - even if you check the box "remember me" or "stay logged in for 1 month", the cookie seems just to be valid for your current browser session. This happened on all my computers, on different systems with different browsers. All other cookies for other websites are fine.

2) Admin page issues: on 6.2, I couldn't access the "Editing and Plugins" page anymore. If I take a look at the source code of the site (local URL tiki-admin.php?page=textarea) it looks like this (notice the spaces): http://nopaste.info/85295d3ba9.html
Even happened after a re-install. On my new 7.0 installation (no upgrade, just fresh install trying to reproduce my errors), the same page seems to have troubles getting the CSS right: http://imageshack.us/f/197/editingplugins.png/ (both using Jqui theme, but at least for 6.2 this happened for other themes like the default one as well).

3) I can't upload pictures. It's not the PHP maximum upload limit - it's set to 32MB, I wrote my own upload form and it worked for 25MB files. It also seems like files and pictures are stored in the database rather than on the system, although I provided an upload folder (rights set to 777, so this should also be fine). Google revealed that there have been some issues in the past, but all the suggested solutions didn't work for me.

Some of these bugs are really annoying, especially the fact that I can't properly attach/embed images. Other than that, TikiWiki is by far the best wiki software I found, therefore I'd like to stick with it and find a workaround for these problems...

posts: 4673 Japan

I've had mixed results with the "remember me" feature but haven't watched it closely lately, so can't comment on that now.

About the Admin page and image upload issues, I have several Tiki sites running Tiki 7, and don't see these problems. Also I don't recall other reports about these things. I wonder if there's something particular about your server that Tiki is having trouble with. Can you give some details about that?

-- Gary


posts: 4673 Japan

Also, have you tried switching on and off the performance options like minify-javascript and minify-css? I've noticed trouble with these on some servers, though not recently.

-- Gary

posts: 10
Gary Cunningham-Lee wrote:

Also, have you tried switching on and off the performance options like minify-javascript and minify-css? I've noticed trouble with these on some servers, though not recently.

-- Gary


Yeah, that was one of the things I found via Google already. Tried this and several other settings that were reported being related to my problems, but nothing helped. Basically I tried switching on/off all the Web 2.0 settings that seemed related, switched themes, etc.


posts: 3665 United States
bagstone wrote:
1) Login cookie: actually, I realized this in many TikiWiki installations, not only in those I managed - even if you check the box "remember me" or "stay logged in for 1 month", the cookie seems just to be valid for your current browser session. This happened on all my computers, on different systems with different browsers. All other cookies for other websites are fine.


Where (and how) are you storing session information? Also, are you using a unique cookie name for your Tiki site. Check the settings on the Admin: General page's tabs. Please see the docs for details.

bagstone wrote:
2) Admin page issues: on 6.2, I couldn't access the "Editing and Plugins" page anymore. If I take a look at the source code of the site (local URL tiki-admin.php?page=textarea) it looks like this (notice the spaces): http://nopaste.info/85295d3ba9.html

Are you getting a specific error messaage? Try turning on the Tiki error reporting for details. FWIW, I'm able to access the page just fine on mny Tiki 6.x sites.

bagstone wrote:
3) I can't upload pictures. It's not the PHP maximum upload limit - it's set to 32MB, I wrote my own upload form and it worked for 25MB files. It also seems like files and pictures are stored in the database rather than on the system, although I provided an upload folder (rights set to 777, so this should also be fine). Google revealed that there have been some issues in the past, but all the suggested solutions didn't work for me.


Again, what error messages are you receiving, and try turning on the Tiki error reporting. Also, be sure to review your settings on the Admin: File Gallery page. Please see the docs, for details. I'm able to upload images without any issues (in Tiki6 and Tiki7).


Please note that Tiki7 has some dramtic changes (from Tiki6). Be sure to read the release notes for details. If you're sticking with Tiki6, I also suggest upgrading to the currect version: 6.3LTS.

HTH,

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Rick Sapir / Tiki for Smarties wrote:
Where (and how) are you storing session information? Also, are you using a unique cookie name for your Tiki site. Check the settings on the Admin: General page's tabs. Please see the docs for details.


Yeah, the cookie name is unique. I played around a little bit, didn't help, also the documentation wasn't too useful at all for my specific problem... then, after all, it seems to work for now: I changed the setting from "user's choice" to "always remember cookie". Not the nice way but at least it'll do for now.

Rick Sapir / Tiki for Smarties wrote:
Are you getting a specific error messaage? Try turning on the Tiki error reporting for details. FWIW, I'm able to access the page just fine on mny Tiki 6.x sites.


I'm getting no error message at all. Even in access.log and all the other pages everything seems to be fine. I just don't know what's causing that weird bug, I didn't touch any TikiWiki code or so.

Rick Sapir / Tiki for Smarties wrote:
Again, what error messages are you receiving, and try turning on the Tiki error reporting. Also, be sure to review your settings on the Admin: File Gallery page. Please see the docs, for details. I'm able to upload images without any issues (in Tiki6 and Tiki7).


Thank you so much! I'm so stupid - I just changed the file *attachment* settings to directory, not the file gallery. I thought the file gallery was just for browsing, like in a Facebook album, and not when embedding pictures into a wiki page. Therefore I didn't even look for that setting. Changed this and now it works fine, perfect!

So, if I can get to the "Plugins and Editing" admin page again, everything's perfect ๐Ÿ˜Š

Rick Sapir / Tiki for Smarties wrote:
Please note that Tiki7 has some dramtic changes (from Tiki6). Be sure to read the release notes for details. If you're sticking with Tiki6, I also suggest upgrading to the currect version: 6.3LTS.


Yeah, I'll probably upgrade to 6.3 and stick with it - would just be nice to see my problems gone, if I'd have to do a complete reinstall and manual transition of pages due to messed up settings or so, I'd rather pick 7.0 for that ๐Ÿ˜‰

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Rick Sapir / Tiki for Smarties wrote:
Rick Sapir / Tiki for Smarties wrote:
Are you getting a specific error messaage? Try turning on the Tiki error reporting for details. FWIW, I'm able to access the page just fine on mny Tiki 6.x sites.


I'm getting no error message at all. Even in access.log and all the other pages everything seems to be fine. I just don't know what's causing that weird bug, I didn't touch any TikiWiki code or so.


Ups, this was not exactly true. I'm getting an error 500 in my access.log. But nothing else, so not particularly helpful. But I'll keep looking.

posts: 10
Here's another strange thing: As soon as I enable any kind of PHP error logging in TikiWiki, it just stops working at all. I'm getting 500 on every page and cannot access anything until I manually reset the error log level to 0 in the preferences in the MySQL db.

posts: 7

Hi,
I'm also using tik-7.0, but no such problems found.
so I guess your trouble might be some special case.

hope that you've fixed or worked-around.