Volunteering Facilitator: @Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist

Recording

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When

Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 15:00:00 UTC time (click to check time zone in your location)

Votes

Votes

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Tiki Roundtable Meeting Time Votes

Voting ended: 15 Nov 2021 12:00 UTC	18 Nov 2021 15:00 UTC	21 Nov 2021 15:00 UTC	24 Nov 2021 15:00 UTC	25 Nov 2021 15:00 UTC
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist
Jonny Bradley
Marc Laporte
Saša Janiška
Xavier de Pedro
Gary Cunningham-Lee
Jean-Marc Libs
Torsten Fabricius
	3	7	6	3

Where

• https://live.tiki.org

What

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Topics

First hour, quick topics

1. Tiki security releases: News and status
2. Should we consider supporting Fontawesome Pro?
   1. Questions: 1) Would that be philosophically compatible with an open source project? 2) Does "support" mean include in the Tiki package and use it in the interface, etc.? 3) Does the pro license allow freely distributing the pro icons? Seems like maybe not. From https://fontawesome.com/plans: "Pro is commercial software, so there are some restrictions. The biggest one is that you cannot distribute Pro to folks not specifically covered by your license (e.g. you can't provide the files in your open source public repo)."
   2. Related: Bootstrap also has an icon set now (https://icons.getbootstrap.com/). This could be added along with Bootstrap 5.
      https://themesberg.com/blog/bootstrap/bootstrap-icons-vs-fontawesome
3. Tiki forums
   Encouragement to use the
4. Tiki indexes "recipes"
   1. In-a-InnoDB-populated-database-the-indexes-are-MyISAM?
   2. Solution for the index multiplication of constantly updated Tiki
5. What is your solution to have user "private pages" ?
   1. https://tiki.org/forumthread77746-Can-we-have-user-private-pages?
   2. Help needed on Tiki.org forums (5 month old ❗
   3. Broken display for sub-forum
   4. Not-possible-to-move-discussions-in-forum
6. How to deal with a bug that can't be easily explained (even the topic is hard to name 😂)
   Example; tracker field visibility, all my attempt to use it on Tiki 18 to 23 with plugin List or CustomSearch failed.
   It is very hard to reproduce, touches too many areas and combinations are endless.
7. Advanced Shopping Cart revamp for Tiki 24
   1. https://tiki.org/forumthread77720-Advanced-Shopping-Cart-revamp-for-Tiki-24
   2. https://gitlab.com/tikiwiki/tiki/-/merge_requests/935
8. New (main?) chat room here https://gitter.im/tiki-org/community
9. Fosdem will happen online again
   1. Who can prepare a presentation about a Tiki high point which will be appearing for end of January?
10. Mailing Lists / Newsletter administration + moving of Email server -> we need a team to fix a number of issues
    mainly a temporary project or task force.. Who will participate, when we start, finalize at which deadline?
11. Dogfood use of CalDav integration in tiki.org.
    Ex: Torsten subscribed the Tiki Community Calendar. Thus after the vote for the Round Table meeting Torsten automatically gets a new event to his Thunderbird and Android calendars. This is just awesome!
    Short description or demo optional (if enough time).
12. Tiki and translations
    1. https://tiki.org/forumthread77726-Translations-documentation-updates
    2. https://dev.tiki.org/Contextual-translations
    3. https://dev.tiki.org/Translations-Revamp
    4. Translations - short here and postpone to December or today longer in 2nd hour?
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Second hour, longer topics

1. Cookies consent status Cookie-consent-improvements
2. Deeper discussion about How to Have Fewer Bugs in Tiki: What are the patterns of the bugs (most frequent and most nasty) (Marc) (45 minutes)
3. Selenium Tests (or alternatives) to set up semiautomatic or automatic tests prior to commits or at commit time. See also Testing. Related to Marc's topic How to Have Fewer Bugs in Tiki (Torsten)
   Subtopics:
   1. Do we need/want and if yes which tool ... is Selenium the tool we should use or try?
   2. Resources ... where we install Selenium (or alternative), payment of the resource, management of the server
   3. Test development ... Torsten likes to give it a try and learn to write tests ... more people needed for (if possible) connection to Git, respectively to do automatization and to send error messages to developers (ex: new code / fix brakes this test related to that feature, please check or contact member XYZ)
   4. Best practices for developers ...
4. Translations ... what will be the (near) future procedure and where to put and find a guideline
   1. Maybe we need to decide new best practices or general rules for translations and leave Transifex?
      ideas, objections etc.
      1. Objection: We just got new Slovak language translations via user on Transifex
      2. Suggestion: at some point after setting up Translation guidelines a six month translation run for the major languages. Similar to what we did in 2010 with German and French. Ex: Q3 and Q4 2022.
5. Feedback and discussion about the Tiki.org top bar menu and the landing pages design/revamp? (when everyone is tired already at this point, we can postpone it for the next meeting)
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