Features / Usability

Posted by Peter 09 Apr 2006 14:10 GMT-0000 posts: 55

I've done some customising of "mnu_application_menu" using the "Menus" option in the Admin section. This gives you lots of options for configuring the meny (e.g. hide or show options for various uesrs, add items, change the order etc)

But proceed slowely. Like most expert friedly tools you have a lot of rope to hang youself.

PeterE

> My first installation of tiki I had to bomb because I'd scrapped the mnu_application_menu and couldn't successfully create another. After a clean installation I still have the same problem. The menus I can easily build are overpopulated, and I'd rather have a clean blank menu and build from there.
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> Equally, it doesn't seem as if I can clone menus, or modules for that matter, although I can edit user-submitted modules, I don't find a way to (e.g.) duplicate the google module to specialise it for extra search engines. Also I don't find a way to build a menu from scratch, but that's probably my problem.
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> Can I suggest the feature of being able to take a pre-defined menu, and duplicate it.
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> Equally, can I suggest the feature of being able to take a pre-defined module and duplicate it. I don't seem to be able to edit the contributed modules (which is probably very sensible) but I should at least be able to clone them to see how they are built and mess with them. The edit control currently doesn't show me source, only the ability to change the general properties like the ordering and who can see it.
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Posted by Rick Sapir / Tiki for Smarties 09 Apr 2006 14:11 GMT-0000 posts: 3665

To duplicate a module, simply copy the ../module/mod-xxxxx.php file of the module you want to duplicate. The new module will appear in your list of available modules.

HTH,

-Rick

Posted by Gary Cunningham-Lee 10 Apr 2006 02:15 GMT-0000 posts: 4673

> My first installation of tiki I had to bomb because I'd scrapped the mnu_application_menu and couldn't successfully create another. After a clean installation I still have the same problem. The menus I can easily build are overpopulated, and I'd rather have a clean blank menu and build from there.
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> Equally, it doesn't seem as if I can clone menus, or modules for that matter, although I can edit user-submitted modules, I don't find a way to (e.g.) duplicate the google module to specialise it for extra search engines. Also I don't find a way to build a menu from scratch, but that's probably my problem.

Menus are made on the Admin Menus page (tiki-admin_menus.php). The top of this page has a title "Create new Menu". Fill in the blanks with some menu details and click save. Then you'll see the new menu in the list at the bottom of the page. Click on the Configure Options icon (the tools) to add the menu items. "Section" means "Parent" or "top level" item (will have folder icon or +/- next to it), "option" means the items under a Section item. Follow the pattern of an existing menu regarding the rest of the menu item details.

> Can I suggest the feature of being able to take a pre-defined menu, and duplicate it.

This can be done by copying the relevant rows in the tiki_menu_options database table (actually it's easier to go this route if you have a lot of menu items to change — dump the table data and use a text editor). But there's no Tiki Admin page to facilitate it. Generally new menus are probably quite distinct from each other, so as a Tiki design decision it probably makes more sense to provide the tools for making menus from scratch rather than making duplicates.

> Equally, can I suggest the feature of being able to take a pre-defined module and duplicate it.....

Like ricks99 says, have a look at the templates/modules/ files to get an idea of how the current modules are done.

-- Gary - zukakakina.com